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Messages - John Hancock Sr

#1
General Tormek Questions / Re: Tormek 2000
July 09, 2025, 12:40:14 AM
TBPH most of the old jigs should work perfectly well so long as they are in good nick. Some, such as the new axe jig are a complete rethink which makes them worth while whereas some others are just upgrades. 

One of the great things about the Tormek philosophy (The Tormek Way) is that they want to keep every machine they produced in working order if possible. I know of no other company who goes out of their way to help customers maintain their machines however old.
#2
General Tormek Questions / Re: Should I Persist?
July 09, 2025, 12:32:42 AM
Quote from: tgbto on July 08, 2025, 02:27:33 PMI think it's fair to say that you shouldn't need a non-included truing tool to be able to sharpen properly
You don't need a true stone for plane irons and chisels. The only time I true the stone is if it is getting grooves, glazed or for the planer blade or drill jigs. I adjust chisels and plane irons for square as I go along and once I set the jig it is pretty much set for that session.

If you are using the planer blade or drill sharpening jigs then the trueing tool is essential.
#3
General Tormek Questions / Re: Should I Persist?
July 08, 2025, 01:39:06 AM
Most processes that requires a human to perform a particular action requires skill which takes time to acquire. That someone can perform a skilled task, even one that takes away a lot of the variability after one or two perfunctory attempts is misguided at least. Even with a freshly trued stone I find that some square adjustment can be required.

If you want a sharpening process that requires no skill whatsoever then you are looking at many tens of thousands of $$ per tool type. Much more outlay than a Tormek. 

The Tormek is a very well constructed machine that is good value for money considering the construction quality and after sales service. However it still requires practice and acquired skill to use properly.

I suspect that this is a case of expectation vs reality.
#4
If you do a search on the various 3D printer sites such as Yeggi and Pintables you will get several pages of results. I don't recall a water trough though.
#5
No but I see no reason why not. Definitely wet grind though.
#6
Drill Bit Sharpening / Re: Tormek dbs-22
June 25, 2025, 12:11:00 AM
You have to very carefully follow the instructions. Any slight deviation can lead to disaster. It took me a few drills before I was getting perfect results. Use the instructions that came with the guide and follow them very carefully and you should be good.

Also note that if you are taking out bad chipping then you may need to do the primary grind, then reset the drill and re-do the primary grind again since the leading edge may have rotated with respect to the jig if a lot of material is removed.
#7
Quote from: Ken S on June 14, 2025, 03:36:03 PMStay focused on your technique
Exactly. I wish I had said that. I have spent a life time doing just that. Anything which requires hand eye coordination, and kinfe sharpening is a perfect example, requires hand eye coordination, despite the contraptions that Tormek prove to make it super easy. If you concentrate on your technique (watch the Tormek Innovation knife Sharpening videos) then over time you will find that it becomes instinctive, however, you need to focus on good technique while you are learning.
#8
When researching my introduction to abrasives there were references going back to at least the neolithic. In the late stone age people discovered that if they sharpen their stone tools they became more efficient. I watched a Time Team episode where they compared a flint napped axe with a similar flint axe sharpened and they found the sharpened axe much more efficient.
#9
Quote from: Ken S on June 12, 2025, 01:11:28 AMwhen the Corning engineer's wife discovered that the glass designed for locomotive headlights also worked well for kitchen ware
The discovery of stainless steel in Sheffield England is also remarkable, the company is still there and locally making knives.
#10
Quote from: Clickngofar on June 07, 2025, 02:24:56 AMAm I the first one in the history of the world to discover this?
Sorry to burst your bubble but not really. I could not find any reference to deburring knives with ultra sonics so this may be new, but there are people deburring parts post machining using ultrasonics so the technique is not new. From what I can find it is extremely effective and your results are consistent which what I see on machined part deburring.
#11
I remember when I was first taught sharpening in high school. The teacher said that Stropping the chisel would successively bend the burr back and forth in order to weaken it and break it off. Seems that ultrasonic cleaning takes to to the next level!
#12
Not convinced. I suppose if you are sharpening for someone who regularly abuses knives then the micro bevel makes sense but if the user is careful and uses the knife fore its intended purpose then just make the angle what it is.

The micro bevel makes more sense for woodworking tools where you are hand re-sharpening on a stone to freshen the edge between full honing so that you can get straight back to work quickly. This depends on work flow.
#13
Quote from: MikeK on May 31, 2025, 12:38:54 PMThis would have effectively stopped me from wasting my time watching the video.
How on earth are they expected to ge clicks otherwise! ;)
#14
Quote from: Lokepus on September 21, 2023, 11:51:10 AMFor some reason 5 of the 80 bits i sharpened seem to be sharpened the "wrong" way around. the cutting bevels wont even touch the material one is trying to drill. i have no idea what so ever why this happened or how its even possible. kinda hard to explain but see pictures. this one obv didnt cut at all.
This has no primary and the secondary bevel is at the wrong angle. This shows that the setup is wrong. It is tricky to get it right. Watching the video that Ken posted above
Quote from: Ken S on June 02, 2025, 01:03:58 AMHere is a link:
https://youtu.be/fSUa1iFUzkM?si=RwoLv-P8RsGWep9L
Should help.

Quote from: Lokepus on September 21, 2023, 11:51:10 AMHere i can tell the secondary bevel was not ground far enough.
It looks to be that is is ground too far. The picture you posted in your second post is spot on.

The DBS-22 is one of those jigs you have to get exactly right.
#15
Knife Sharpening / Re: Shun Fuji Knives
May 30, 2025, 07:12:57 AM
Quote from: tgbto on May 28, 2025, 08:47:00 AMShun Fuji have a SG2 core, which can be tempered to a high hardness
It appears that SG2 is also a "powdered" steel which is interesting. The claim is that it is "easy to sharpen" so it should fine with silicon carbide (the Tormek SG wheel) which would be convenient.

If you are getting glazing on you SG you may need to use something harder like the SB, CBN or diamond.

I have a powered metal chisel from Veritas and although I can sharpen it with the SG wheel it is slower and more problematic than my carbon steel chisels.