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Retrofit for the KJ-45 to make it Adjustable!

Started by VijayDoshi, Today at 02:52:36 AM

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VijayDoshi

Hi everyone,

I've developed a retrofit for the KJ-45 to bring back the adjustable attribute of the SVM-45 - there's a link to a video at the end of this post.



Problems with the KJ-45
1.      It's not adjustable, you can't make micro adjustments easily, rendering the wood block technique less useful.
2.   Tool rest handle is too small, long blades pull the knife towards you.
3.   Occasionally you inadvertently use the "short stop" without realizing.
4.   The self-centering aspect is generally solving a low priority problem – we've never-ever had a customer complain about it.
5.   Plastic shaft is not as sturdy as it needs to be.
6.   Smaller torque screw is hard to get tight.

Problems with the SVM-45
1.   Shaft is slightly too short to accommodate very short blades without adjusting tool rest height.
2.   Plastic tool-rest wears out, we wrap electrical tape around the treads to establish tension... after three years it is now stripped.
3.   Not "centered" – though we have not found this to be a real problem.
4.   It's no longer being produced (boo!)

Introducing our retrofit for the KJ-45
1.   Fits precisely into the jig KJ-45 jig.
2.   Fillet cut maintains alignment and allows for variable height
3.   Longer shaft – 20mm longer than SVM-45 handles smaller and larger knives without having to reset tool rest height.
4.   Aluminum guide and tighter threads provide a longer life and more friction to prevent changing adjustment during sharpening – variable friction using lock-tite.
5.   Patent pending since this is an improvement to an existing invention/patent

These will be available for pre-order on our website magnoliaknife.com soon – email me at vijay@magnoliaknife.com if you are interested. 


https://youtu.be/WiammYI1PIs

tgbto

#1
Hi,

I'm not sure I got it right but from what I can see in the video, One jaw (the one with the threaded cylinder) is fixed relative to the shaft of the jig, while the other (the "shorter" one) moves. so it would seem that it negates the advantage of the KJ over the KVM, namely to have symmetrical clamping. But maybe I'm wrong.

I believe that an efficient way of solving this is one where the plastic part of the clamp is similar to the KJ, but threaded at the end (as the KVM one) and an adjustable handle is attached. Probably with an additional nut on the far side to solve the problem where the handle rotates while sharpening. As it is a fairly obvious combination of both the old and new design, I'm not sure this would be patentable though.

<edit> And for reference sake, a design for 3D-printing that was uploaded a few weeks ago : See on printables.com . It seems more or less to follow the same idea.</edit>

cbwx34

Quote from: tgbto on Today at 09:23:30 AMHi,

I'm not sure I got it right but from what I can see in the video, One jaw (the one with the threaded cylinder) is fixed relative to the shaft of the jig, while the other (the "shorter" one) moves. so it would seem that it negates the advantage of the KJ over the KVM, namely to have symmetrical clamping. But maybe I'm wrong.
...

Pretty sure you're right, which is why (paraphrasing) "centering doesn't matter" is repeated.  Basically, just remaking an SVM jig from KJ parts.



Quote from: VijayDoshi on Today at 02:52:36 AM...
Problems with the SVM-45  KJ-45
1.      It's not adjustable, you can't make micro adjustments easily, rendering the wood block technique less useful.
2.   Tool rest handle is too small, long blades pull the knife towards you.
3.   Occasionally you inadvertently use the "short stop" without realizing.
4.   The self-centering aspect is generally solving a low priority problem – we've never-ever had a customer complain about it.
5.   Plastic shaft is not as sturdy as it needs to be.
6.   Smaller torque screw is hard to get tight.

Problems with the KJ-45  SVM-45
1.   Shaft is slightly too short to accommodate very short blades without adjusting tool rest height.
2.   Plastic tool-rest wears out, we wrap electrical tape around the treads to establish tension... after three years it is now stripped.
3.   Not "centered" – though we have not found this to be a real problem.
4.   It's no longer being produced (boo!)
...

I think you had this mislabeled?
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tgbto

Quote from: cbwx34 on Today at 02:26:40 PMPretty sure you're right, which is why (paraphrasing) "centering doesn't matter" is repeated.  Basically, just remaking an SVM jig from KJ parts.

Ooh damn, you're right. I don't know the price point for this but postage included it might well make it an expensive SVM-45.

Wouldn't that kind of adapter with the right fit do the trick for le$$ if one doesn't care about centering ? Saw off the end of the KJ before the middle stop, glue it inside the hole, use an embedded M8 nut as an adjustable stop ?

VijayDoshi

#4
SVM-45's are nowhere to be found (if you can find a good source LMK!) - so this lets anyone that wants the adjustable-ness of the SVM-45 and has bought a KJ-45 fix that.

Yes - thanks, they were mislabeled - fixed in original post.

This primarily brings back the adjustable aspect that we lost with the KJ-45 that we used to have with the SVM-45, in addition to making the shaft longer than the original SVM-45. On the KJ45 there is only a plastic post that is split so retrofitting it without something like this is likely to be very tenuous.

tgbto

Right again, I forgot about the split.

Out of curiosity, have you checked with Tormek that they won't consider it a patent infringement on their SVM-45 and/.or KJ-45 ?

And if not, would it be less expensive overall to just go all the way and may an entire jig from scratch, free from compatibility constraints with the KJ ?