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#11
General Tormek Questions / Re: Angle Master Degree Differ...
Last post by Rossy66 - May 20, 2026, 11:40:29 PM
Quote from: tgbto on May 20, 2026, 11:14:55 AM
Quote from: Rossy66 on May 19, 2026, 10:25:52 PMI apologize if this is a stupid question but, I was wondering if anyone knows the degree difference on the angle master setting of 250mm to the middle scale of 10"?

It's not stupid at all. If you play with the model here, you'll see that for a given setup (USB height set, projection distance set), the difference in angle when the stone diameter varies from 250 to 254mm is about 1 degree. So for a given position of the WM-200 on the wheel while resting on the flat of the blade, the angle read on the WM-200 should be off by the same amount.

Thanks for the info and link
#12
Knife Sharpening / Re: SG-250 - Oil Better Suited...
Last post by tgbto - May 20, 2026, 05:37:30 PM
Quote from: John Hancock Sr on May 19, 2026, 03:12:24 AMThe work being done can be measured by the material being removed (bonds being broken within the steel) and the generation of heat. You need to maximise the first and minimise the second. We want as little heat as possible and as much material removal as possible for maximum efficiency.


Agreed 100%.

To complement my response to OP's objection, the Higher MOH of the abrasive relative to the material being ground allows it to scratch said material. In doing so, there is resistance to the relative motion of the abrasive and the material. This resistance is precisely friction, and overcoming it generates heat (due to resistance to gliding at the molecular level AND to the the energy released by the breaking bonds within the material AND to the wear within the abrasive).

Lubricants work by separating surfaces. A lubricant that would work so well that there would be no resistance to the relative movement of the abrasive with respect to the ground material would also prevent the abrasive from scratching the material. For grinding to be effective, surfaces have to be allowed to come into contact. Where they come into contact, the kinetic friction coefficient depends only on the surfaces, not the lubricant.

Machinists know that a dry bit removes material much faster than a lubricated one. Unfortunately, it also breaks down so much faster that it is impractical to use it dry.

Water for the Tormek is a good compromise : it properly transfers heat away from the point of contact, lubricates a bit but still allows grinding to happen quickly enough.

TL/DR : the better the lubricant, the less abrasive and steel come into contact, the slower steel is being ground.




#13
Tormek T-1 and T-2 / A good video presenter from th...
Last post by Ken S - May 20, 2026, 05:12:15 PM
I like Ukulele Jay's videos. He is an experienced barbecue chef who sharpens his own knives, an ideal T1 user. Here is a link:

https://youtu.be/CRoeRtjUymE?si=T7RUW27F0u-12gAe

Ken
#14
General Tormek Questions / Re: Angle Master Degree Differ...
Last post by tgbto - May 20, 2026, 11:14:55 AM
Quote from: Rossy66 on May 19, 2026, 10:25:52 PMI apologize if this is a stupid question but, I was wondering if anyone knows the degree difference on the angle master setting of 250mm to the middle scale of 10"?

It's not stupid at all. If you play with the model here, you'll see that for a given setup (USB height set, projection distance set), the difference in angle when the stone diameter varies from 250 to 254mm is about 1 degree. So for a given position of the WM-200 on the wheel while resting on the flat of the blade, the angle read on the WM-200 should be off by the same amount.
#15
Drill Bit Sharpening / Re: SPAs on Twist Drills
Last post by Rossy66 - May 20, 2026, 12:28:17 AM
Quote from: RichColvin on May 19, 2026, 10:56:27 PMDan Heil contacted me by eMail and noted,

You can grind a SPA by setting the (DBS-22 clearance angle) to 90 degrees.

I tried it and that indeed worked ... exceptionally well!  Here is the resulting grind on a ½" drill bit.


This is a really big find by Dan as SPAs are really good on larger drill bits, and as noted on GadgetBuilder,

Secondary Point Angles ... extend drill life, improve hole finish and minimize the exit burr on through-drilled holes.

You can also see that the secondary facets are quite a bit rougher than the primary facets. This is due to using a different grinding wheel, making this a faster process

Primary Facets
  • Started with DC-250 diamond course grinding wheel (drill was in bad shape)
  • Finished with DF-250 diamond fine grinding wheel
Secondary Facets
  • Used DC-250 diamond course grinding wheel
SPAs
  • Used DF-250 diamond fine grinding wheel

That's really cool.
#16
Knife Sharpening / Re: SG-250 - Oil Better Suited...
Last post by Rossy66 - May 20, 2026, 12:26:32 AM
Quote from: Ken S on May 17, 2026, 10:48:33 PMHas anyone tried using Tormek ACC with the SG? It has cooling properties like water, and also has anti rusting properties.

Ken
I noticed that when I started using ACC with my SG250, it stopped getting brown spots on it which I assume was some part of metal partial stuck to the wheel.
#17
General Tormek Questions / Re: Angle Master Degree Differ...
Last post by Rossy66 - May 20, 2026, 12:24:31 AM
Quote from: Ken S on May 19, 2026, 11:22:02 PMThe Anglemaster, being a Tormek product, is calibrated to the standard 250mm Tormek grinding wheels. If the oversize difference with CBN wheels bothers you, take a millimeter reading of their diameter and make a fine sharpie line. Your guess will be close enough.

Ken

Thanks
#18
Knife Sharpening / Re: SG-250 - Oil Better Suited...
Last post by RichColvin - May 19, 2026, 11:27:06 PM
I remember using oils for keeping cutting tools cool and working efficiently (e.g., on drills, milling machines, and metal lathes).  I could not remember using oils for this purpose, so I asked Claude.ai.  Whilst AIs are not always right, Claude does seem quite good.  

Question:  What are typical grinding lubricants?

There was a long iteration of options provided, based on, 

  • Material being ground (steel, carbide, ceramic, aluminum)
  • Wheel type (CBN, diamond, aluminum oxide)
  • Precision requirements
  • Environmental/health regulations

But it was summarized as:

For most general-purpose surface or cylindrical grinding, water-soluble synthetic or semi-synthetic fluids are the go-to choice due to their cooling efficiency and cleanliness.

I followed this up with the question:
What is most commonly used for aluminum oxide grinding wheels?

For aluminum oxide grinding wheels specifically, the choice depends on the application, but here's the breakdown:

Most Common: Water-Based Synthetics & Semi-Synthetics
These are the dominant choice for aluminum oxide wheels because:

  • Aluminum oxide generates significant heat — water-based fluids excel at cooling
  • They keep the wheel from "loading up" (pores clogging with swarf)
  • Good for ferrous metals, which are the typical workpiece material paired with Al₂O₃ wheels
  • Easy to maintain and cost-effective

By Application
General surface/cylindrical grinding (most common use case)
  • Synthetic or semi-synthetic water-based fluids are standard
  • Concentration typically 3–8% in water

Precision grinding (tool & cutter, OD grinding)
  • Semi-synthetic fluids for the balance of cooling + lubrication
  • Sometimes light sulfurized mineral oil for very fine finishes on steel

Heavy stock removal
  • Soluble oil emulsions — the oil content helps with lubrication under higher loads

Light/bench grinding
  • Often run dry, or with a wax stick touched to the wheel periodically

What to Avoid with Al₂O₃ Wheels

  • Straight heavy oils — poor cooling, can cause thermal cracking in the wheel bond
  • Alkaline fluids with high pH — can degrade certain wheel bonds over time


So, I think we are good with water.
#19
General Tormek Questions / Re: Angle Master Degree Differ...
Last post by Ken S - May 19, 2026, 11:22:02 PM
The Anglemaster, being a Tormek product, is calibrated to the standard 250mm Tormek grinding wheels. If the oversize difference with CBN wheels bothers you, take a millimeter reading of their diameter and make a fine sharpie line. Your guess will be close enough.

Ken
#20
Drill Bit Sharpening / SPAs on Twist Drills
Last post by RichColvin - May 19, 2026, 10:56:27 PM
Dan Heil contacted me by eMail and noted,

You can grind a SPA by setting the (DBS-22 clearance angle) to 90 degrees.

I tried it and that indeed worked ... exceptionally well!  Here is the resulting grind on a ½" drill bit.


This is a really big find by Dan as SPAs are really good on larger drill bits, and as noted on GadgetBuilder,

Secondary Point Angles ... extend drill life, improve hole finish and minimize the exit burr on through-drilled holes.

You can also see that the secondary facets are quite a bit rougher than the primary facets. This is due to using a different grinding wheel, making this a faster process

Primary Facets
  • Started with DC-250 diamond course grinding wheel (drill was in bad shape)
  • Finished with DF-250 diamond fine grinding wheel
Secondary Facets
  • Used DC-250 diamond course grinding wheel
SPAs
  • Used DF-250 diamond fine grinding wheel