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#61
Here's a tighter shot...
#62
I just tested these chisels and got around 120 BESS.  Is there anything you can tell me about the edges from these pics?

#63
Good video and thanks Ken, for your input.  100 BESS gives me something to shoot for.  My initial thought was that I should be getting the same BESS readings for chisels that I get with knives, which is between 50 and 100, but that hasn't been the case, so I was wondering why.  My journey continues, I guess.
#64
Quote from: JohnHancock on May 09, 2023, 01:01:27 AMI recently watched a sharpening video from Jonathon Katz-Moses here https://youtu.be/GBjiEmN5HzA and he was getting results in the 110-120 range after stropping. For 25 - 30 deg bevels this seems to be about right.
Thanks John. I'll for sure watch it. I'm used to getting below 100 with knives, so I wonder why the difference?
#65
Quote from: 3D Anvil on May 07, 2023, 06:17:01 PMI don't see why you couldn't use the USB as a rest for stone grading, provided the plate is stiff.  But I think 160 grit is way too course for the SJ stone.
Yes it may be, however I wanted to try it since I use that same diamond plate to flatten all of my other water stones and ceramic stones. 
#66
So after you've gone through the grinding wheels, what's the best way to finish chisels?  Should one follow the same procedure as one would on a knife's edge?  What do you personally do?
#67
I've been working on chisels and would like to have some comparison BESS readings to shoot for.  Theoretically, I would think they should be like knife readings, but I'm not sure that relates to real world. 
#68
I've got a thick, heavy, 160g flattening diamond plate.  Can I simply rest that against the USB to grade the surface of the SJ?  Seems like that is doing the same thing as the SE-77, just eliminating the middle man.
#69
Quote from: tgbto on May 05, 2023, 05:39:27 PMInteresting, could you give the reading taken with a tape measure in between two stripes on the wheel ?
A 50hz phenomenon with a 248mm (trued) wheel would give 1.5 cm.
I don't have the inner diameter of the drive wheel in mind, but it could also be something that happens with every revolution of the drive shaft, it can be easily computed.
I wouldn't rule out that it has something to to with your grading. First off, 400g seems quite coarse to me, that's something I would use for grading my SG, not my SG. Vadim used to recommend 1000g for the SJ. That being said, it's like the stone has been smoothed out by something wobbly...

Best I can do is, it's about 8mm peak to peak on average on the second photo.  Also, on that photo, I did try 1k diamond. I did send a note with photos to Tormek Support.  One thing...after using the TT-50, the surface was higher on the inner surface than the outer.  I noticed that when I mounted the 400g diamond in the SE-77 to smooth the surface.
#70
Quote from: TireguyfromMA on May 05, 2023, 07:52:07 AMHmmm...just guessing, but that looks like a constant oscillation pattern that might be related to  manufacturing?  Did you notice any oscillation while truing with the TT-50? It would be interesting to run a dial indicator over that stone while rotating it by hand on the motor shaft. I would send those photos to TORMEK product support to hear if they have a good explanation.
I did notice some vibration, but not enough to be of concern at the time.  Using the TT-50, I didn't notice any vibration other than that created by grinding.  I think I will email support on this.
#71
OK...this is weird.  I trued the SJ with my TT-50, then graded the surface with a 400g flat diamond stone.  The wheel wasn't truly true, however can someone explain this result after using the SJ on two chisels?  I used it after a 1200grit wheel.  Has anyone else had this happen?


#72
Ken, I've been using the TTS-100 along with your suggestions.  I also use SchleifJunkies CBN wheels, Tormek diamond wheel, WoodTurners Wonder and the SJ, all of which leave different degrees of scratch pattern bevel coverage.  Because of that, I've had to change my Projection to achieve a full bevel scratch pattern.  I'm guessing that the cause of this is each wheel has a slightly different diameter.  Is this expected or am I doing something wrong?
#73
Quote from: RichColvin on May 03, 2023, 03:27:20 AM
Quote from: darita on May 02, 2023, 02:53:55 PMThanks all for the replies.  Since the edge will be refined whether edge leading or trailing, I'll play it safe and go edge trailing to prevent damage to the very delicate SJ.  I know how the SJ absorbs water like a sponge and gets extremely soft after doing so. 

The SJ is not particularly delicate.  Rather, it can chip easily. 

Also, the SJ does not absorb water "like a sponge". In fact, I find that it absorbs it very little water.

Finally, I've not experienced it becoming spongy. But, I only leave the SJ grindstone in water during the time I'm using it.  Once I'm done, I remove the water from the stone. 

Maybe "like a sponge" was a bit dramatic.  How do you true your SJ?
#74
So Ken, I'm finding it difficult to figure out how to setup a trailing edge configuration using the TTS 100 and SE 77.  Things just don't seem to line line up correctly.
#75
Thanks all for the replies.  Since the edge will be refined whether edge leading or trailing, I'll play it safe and go edge trailing to prevent damage to the very delicate SJ.  I know how the SJ absorbs water like a sponge and gets extremely soft after doing so.