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#7966
A good illustration of the need for different blade angles in a kitchen is the recent post about the knife missing a large hunk of the blade due to using it to cut a lobster. (The choice of knife might have been done more carefully as well.)

A Sawzall blade which routinely had to cut through nails as well as wood would be a poor choice for cutting dovetails.  Likewise a dovetail saw would be easily destroyed by a nail infested 2x4.

My Chinese cleaver used for slicing vegetables can and should be sharpened to a different angle than the heavier chopping cleaver of a more carnivorous  person.  Vegetables are boneless.

A paring chisel should be ground to a finer bevel than a dovetail or mortising chisel which is hit with a mallet.

Is the exact angle critical?  I think we live in a world of tolerance ranges.  If I needed a chisel for paring in a size that I only had one sharpened for dovetail chopping, I would use it.  Being very sharp covers a multitude of sins.  It might not be the ideal tool, but it would work.

One of the joys of skillful sharpening is the ability to adapt edges to specific uses.  We can grind a knife or chisel specifically for very light, intricate paring.  We can grind the same tool for more utilitarian use.  A good chef or woodworker would want that flexibility.

I believe a "compleat" sharpener also uses the edges he creates and maintains.  Whether the blade is a chef's knife, chisel or for a lawn mower, the person who sharpens that blade should have a working knowledge of how the tool behaves under different degrees of sharpness.  The true test of a sharp kitchen knife is on the cutting board, cutting whatever the intended use is.

I am one of the forum who regularly proclaims the value of being able to sharpen a simple chisel edge.  That is an important foundation block in sharpening.  I would not minimize it.  However, once the basics become solid, there is a whole range of options to adapt the tool to the job and the individual worker.  I believe both the satisfaction of doing basic work well and the creativity of choices add to the satisfaction of the sharpener.

Ken 
#7967
Congrats, Herman on being the first hero member from Texas!

Welcome to the "club".

Ken
#7968
Rob, check out Rob Cosman's videos.  He is definitely a salesman, but his technique and products are very solid.

Ken
#7969
Ionut's recommendation of Lee Valley is a very good one.  Lee Valley is a very reputable place and has some interesting and unusual things as well as the standard fare.  (They often offer special closeouts at very nice prices.)  I have been a very satisfied customer for many years.   About once a quarter, they advertise free shipping for orders over forty dollars US.

Ken
#7970
Herman, home shop machinists purchase small quantities of metal and plastics.  A copy of Home Shop Machinist magazine should have adds for these places.

Ken
#7971
Good post, Rob. It gave me a good laugh, especially the Wodehouse version.

Ken
#7972
"Hate the sin, but love the sinner."

I still prefer a  more out in the open and fair auction approach.  Even when I have placed a late bit, I try to allow several minutes to give other parties fair opportunity.  if I want the item more than the next guy, I will get it.  If the next guy wants it more, it's his.

In general, I have done better with Tormek gear when my local dealer runs sales.

Ken
#7973
I believe one of the first legal issues would be the patent which Tormek holds on the Torlock mechanism.

The jigs are certainly good ideas.  I doubt if they would be commercially viable, patent or no patent.

Ken

#7974
"Two nations separated by a common language"

Rob, would you please translate "Bob's your uncle" into "American" for me.

Thanks,

Ken
#7975
A bowl and a saucepan on a stove would suffice for a still....... The world is full of capable small weld shops.

Ken
#7976
While we are (quite rightly) congratulating our forum members for their ingenuity, let's not forget the fine work done by Robin a while back with the improved universal support bar he designed and had manufactured for sharpening tall cleavers. 

Sadly, when he offered them for sale to this forum at a very reasonable price, only one person (me) was willing to purchase one from him.  I thought it would be a useful tool for sharpening my favorite Chinese cleaver.  And, I would be supporting the ingenuity and industry of a fellow forum member.

Ken
#7977
I would respectfully disagree.  Nothing personal, but I hate snipers.  I bought my planer jig on ebay.  I knew how much I would be willing to pay.  If it went beyond that, someone else would own it.  While there are deals on ebay, I believe a lot of people use ebay as a retail store.  (One often with new new product warranty)

Tormek gear is not rare. I have had more success being patient and waiting until my local dealer has a show and/or 20% storewide sale.  My dealer occasionally has 20% bag sales.  Anything which fits in their sale bags is discounted.  The bags will just barely hold an SB or SJ-250 wheel.  That's how I bought them.

The world is not yet totally out of the woods from the pain from the sub prime mortgage/ hyper leverage mess our dear Wall Street brethren gave us.  I believe tool merchants will have to continue to offer occasional sales to stay afloat.

Ken
#7978
Rob,

If you are thinking nirvana, think Canadian.  Our brothers to the north have some amazing plane blades.

Veritas (Lee Valley) has that amazing new powder alloy.  Plus they flatten and polish their blade backs to tool and die shop tolerances.  Your only complaint might be that you don't get to spend enough sharpening time with it.

Rob Cosman does a very impressive series of  you tubes promoting his line of blades.  I'm thinking of the one where he puts one of his wunderblades in an old Stanley plane and happily goes about making .001" full length shavings in maple.

A third Canadian option is IBC. Their blades sound impressive as well.

I have no doubt you would be delighted with a Lie-Nielsen or Ron Hock blade.  Both are superb products.  I just happen to think in this case, Veritas has a slight "edge" (sorry about the pun).

By the way, if you are planning to use your Dad's plane, and you should, do it right and buy the combination of a new blade and a new chip breaker. move on past one of the chief plane gremlins. Give your Dad's old Stanley the full chance to sing.   I hope you will do this.

By the way, never put a L-N plane in a museum. Our museums are filled with lovely old musical instruments in pristine condition.  They are still in that condition because they looked great, but weren't very playable.  The real instruments became played out long ago.  No L-N plane deserves that fate. 
#7979
Herman,

Yes, the premium blades from Ron Hock, Lee Valley and Lie-Nielsen are quite amazing.

However, I have watched Ernie Conover tune and sharpen a couple very old Stanley planes with the original blades and then do some very fine planing with them.  Don't underestimate your Dad's oldies when lovingly tuned and sharpened.  (During that class I restored my grandfather's 1891 vintage Stanley Bailey jack plane.  It's a trooper and back on active duty.)

Ken
#7980
Herman,

  I hope you can restore your grading stone.  Whether you can or not, like my new collection of Torlock jigs in various sizes, we have learned something from our thoughts put into action.  Tuition for Tormek Design 101, if you will.  I believe we have something of value to show for our work.  We have pushed back the limitations of our skill level a little bit.  Enough little bits, and pretty soon, it starts to add up!

Ken