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#1
Knife Sharpening / Re: How to achieve less than 100 bess?
February 22, 2026, 06:18:00 PM
Thank you masters. Everything is clear. ;)  ;) I think I'll buy an BESS type device.
#2
Knife Sharpening / Re: How to achieve less than 100 bess?
February 17, 2026, 08:36:55 AM
Thanks, Dan.
I don't have access to the photo on that site.
#3
Knife Sharpening / Re: How to achieve less than 100 bess?
February 15, 2026, 03:54:05 PM
Quote from: tgbto on February 12, 2026, 09:08:24 AM
Quote from: Andy on February 11, 2026, 09:01:18 PMIt must have been a good test. But I didn't understand anything. The translation must have been imperfect.

The translation to what language ? @3D Anvil's message makes perfect sense...
"I use the Uline catalogue" this is not clear and  "whittling hair"  ::)
 
#4
Knife Sharpening / Re: How to achieve less than 100 bess?
February 11, 2026, 09:01:18 PM
Quote from: 3D Anvil on July 15, 2024, 07:20:44 AMI can usually tell from slicing paper (I use the Uline catalogue) what the BESS score is going to be, give or take 10-15 grams.  Whittling hair is another good analogue for the BESS tester.  If you can't whittle a hair (or cause it to split on contact), you've probably got a BESS reading over 135.  If you can whittle a hair, but you have to mess around with it for a while to get it, you're likely in the 110-135 range.  If you can do it on the first attempt, and pretty much anywhere on the edge, you're below 100.

As far as the BESS tester only reading a tiny fraction of the edge goes, I don't find that to be a problem.  My edges are generally consistent from tip to heel after sharpening.  If I get a reading of 100g in one spot, I'm going to get the same reading +/- 5g anywhere else on the blade.
It must have been a good test. But I didn't understand anything. The translation must have been imperfect.
#5
Knife Sharpening / The pain of choice
February 09, 2026, 05:17:53 PM
Hello masters. I have not met a better forum than this one.
I ask masters to help with the choice. Tormek will not come for a long time. But you need to buy a lot for Tormek. Reading the forum, I still did not understand what suits me best. Supposedly everything works. I understand that everything is individual.
I think about this:
1. FVB vs. MB 102
2. Leather wheel (2 pcs) vs. Felt wheel (2 pcs) (and I have WSKO ELIT )
3. SVM 45 vs. KJ 45 (by SVM 45 I mean custom)
4. KS 123 vs. app
tormek vs. clone (joke)
I have already purchased Vadim's book.
I already have CBN #400. #1000 is already on its way. #160 I will order. #80 under ?
Thank you.
Andriy .
#6
Knife Sharpening / Re: BESS Tester
February 05, 2026, 05:54:39 PM
Quote from: Ken S on February 05, 2026, 03:46:32 PMFor a sharpener testing his work, the B accuracy is more than adequate. I recall Mike saying the same thing.
Ken
Mr. Ken, you made me happy.
Andy.
#7
Knife Sharpening / Re: BESS Tester
February 05, 2026, 05:39:50 PM
Quote from: tgbto on February 05, 2026, 03:42:57 PMThe difference between the two is the resolution : Model A has a 1g resolution, Model B has a 5g resolution (not justifying the price difference from a technical standpoint but hey, that's marketing for you).

So unless you have the constraint (and means) to measure up to a 1g resolution, model B will be more than sufficient. Whether your 105 BESS are actually 107 or 103 shouldn't change your life much. Plus as you know or will discover, BESS readings are somewhat of a personal thing, and you will probably pursue consistency (are my knives roughly as sharp as I want them) rather than 2g improvements (is my knife insignificantly sharper now that I have stropped it with aged newspaper instead of a recent edition).
Thank you very much. That's a great answer. I hope my life doesn't change.
#8
Knife Sharpening / Re: BESS Tester
February 05, 2026, 03:17:03 PM
Hello, good people.Maybe this has already been discussed. But I found this relevant topic. I want to buy a BESS tester. I can't decide which model to choose. A or B. Help me choose. Model B is cheaper. If I hypothetically take measurements, will the readings on both devices be the same?
#9
Hi, how are you? I can't find it. I saw a link to a knife sharpness chart here on the forum. It looks like a test. How to check the sharpness of a knife when you don't have a device. I remember there being mention of cash register tape -?Bess and cigarette paper- ?Bess .....
Thanks.
Merry Christmas everyone!
Peaceful skies.
#10
Quote from: tgbto on December 04, 2025, 02:43:33 PM
Quote from: Andy on December 04, 2025, 02:33:23 PMHow to maintain a 13.5 degree angle for honing? By hand?
Muscle memory?

I use the WSKO a lot, I even added a FVB so I can keep the shaft horizontal.

Still, even with this setup, it is IMO impossible to be precise within 1dps : the slack in the belt itself, even on the stiffest setting, lets the angle vary with the slightest change in pressure.

I also found the scale on the first generation to be quite approximate. But this can be corrected with an anglecube or the like.

You are right! I also have a hard time maintaining the exact angle on the WSKO. Impossible.
And how did you set up the "FVB" on the WSKO? Can you take a picture?
Do you mean the WSKO + Work Sharp Blade Grinder?
#11
How to maintain a 13.5 degree angle for honing? By hand?
Muscle memory?
#12
Quote from: Sir Amwell on December 04, 2025, 12:49:53 AMI initially grind and then refine on a 1000 grit CBN wheel on Tormek.
I then hone on a leather belt on WSKO with Tormek paste.
I estimate the blade taper for a given knife.
Say I want to hone exact angle I compensate for the blade taper and set the WSKO accordingly.
So if I ground at 15 degrees per side on Tormek.
If the taper on the knife is 1.5 degrees per side then I set the WSKO to 13.5 degrees to hone exact.
For most knives I hone at plus 1.5-2 degrees per side initially.
Then at exact to finally remove the burr.
Make sense?
PM me if you want more details/explanation.
Thank you. Great.
#13
Quote from: Sir Amwell on July 21, 2025, 01:07:49 AMhen hone at +0.5 degrees on a WSKO blade attachment with leather belt and Tormek honing compound, followed by exact on a leather belt with 5 micron diamond compound. Repeatable.
Good afternoon. How do you honing on a WSKO? Using guides or using in limbo?
Andrii
from Ukraine.