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Ken I too, would've liked to see a little more input concerning the SB.
Yesterday I tried to revive an old HSS neat clever by first using these resin bonded wheels that are 100g and 1000 grit. Then deburring on a Scotch-Brite wheel, followed by a flappy leather wheel and got nowhere to a consistent, smooth edge. This was all due I think more so in the way I had the latest knife jig in place on the Cleaver.
Anyway, let's forget about this course of action.

Then I tried CBN wheels in 160, 400 and thousand grit and eventually, this helped give me a cleaner edge, but yet not sharp enough. I mention this clever, original edge from the start was all over the place anyway. And of course, Scotch Bright wheel to remove the burr, followed by the leather wheel coded with blue compound. In the end. It gave me a better edge, but still not sharp enough. Now I wonder, with this being my first cleaver I have ever sharpened thus far and expecting under 90 on the bess scale, That may be a 160 bess marker that I had was adequate enough.

Then I remembered the SB Stone I have that seldom got used. from my understanding this SB Stone is more so used for HSS steels. So there I went first grading it with its lowest grit then of course regrading to the 1000 Which seem to have given me the best in a cleaner edge if you will.
But by that time, I was tired and left it alone with no holding thus far. I'll tackle it later today. But what I want to say is by far the SG gave me better improvements. But I also can't say that it did it on its own because I did two processes prior to the SV scenario. Anyway, what am I saying I don't know quite honestly. But I agree with you. I don't see much input, feedback, talk around the usage of the SB. That's the price of potatoes for me today from a still learning recipient of this fine community.

Thank you, Ken

this is interesting now as I was once told by a dealer that sells Tormek in Canada that the Japanese wheel and the original wheel can be run in normal tapwater. So am I understanding correctly they should be running in ACC solution as well?

Hello Baker,

thanks for your info and the link (R.I.P. Vadim)!

There would also be the possibility of ordering an "Extra Hard" (approx. 0.68 - 0.72) DM 250x30mm.

https://www.mototechnica-shop.de/Filzscheibe-

Filzpolierscheibe-Filzrad-Filzscheibe-Filzpolierscheibe-30mm-breit-sehr-hart-glatt--30-mm-breit--Durchmesser-waehlbar-Glanzpolieren-Polierfilz.html

also, that link, I can't see where one can translate it to English for starters.

phil

Hello!
A s I understand, Durofelt has a problem.
There is no problem with the 250 rockhard

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https://www.mototechnica-shop.de/Schnaeppchen-Fehlserie-Abweichung-einige-mm-Filzscheibe-Grat-Entfernen-Messer-und-Polieren--leichte-Massabweichung---Farbdivergenzen-rockhart-250-x-30.html

There is also

https://schleifjunkies.de

International sending

So long
Pietje

and Slipakniven from sweden

thank you ken

going to retire with that 10% off

KEN,

Overall, that is good advice directed to those of us just starting out. Naturally me included. I sense though, that you sense there's a "But" somewhere in this. Yes, there is.

I would not agree that this is a universal rule for all newbies. Remember some of us learn quicker and buy all the necessary gadgets upfront. I slowly did over the last two months or maybe somewhat a little more; when this Knife Sharpening bug hit me and hit me good.

The original Tormek Stone has its advantages so as their leather and composite wheels. But they are limiting.

I have all the Tormek diamond and other stones now on hand. now, diamond as we all know is the top of the line compared to its brother CBN.

What started my trip on CBN wheels was the fact of maybe saving the expenses of constantly having to add ACC to the water. So started my research on CBN that others have voiced, and have claimed that they can be run in normal tapwater. I like that very much. Having said this, I have ordered CBN from our well-known US distributor, a Swedish distributor, and of course, German. The US guy will not claim that they can be run in normal tapwater, although there have been videos where others have done youtube experiments with honerite and plain water and has found that the honerite works well with CBN wheels. Having said that, I prefer normal tap water as always an option.
So again can this happens somewhat quickly over the last 70 days or so since I started. you see some people newbies as I, as I'm sure there are many other newbies as well that somewhat speed up the process, and possibly learn a little quicker and like to get the more fine tuned equipment if you will.

I love CBN in plain water as I love diamond wheels. I love the diamond pastes. I like making my own chromium oxide paste that I've learned the process through knife grinders videos.

These additives for me, and I have to say for me. It's my opinion have way enhanced the sharpness of my knife edges. What has really exploded it to a higher plateau is kangaroo tails.

 I'd love some information on purchasing the hardware rather than me making it to make my own strops?

anyway, I don't want to write a storybook here. Your advice is good but I wouldn't say it's universal that's all Ken. My apologies upfront with somewhat disagreeing, but I'm sure you get the gist of this.

I truly want to thank you for your help behind the scenes to various information needs I have.

My next mission is awaiting a gentleman in Australia for him to source the history of these tales so as He can then apply for all the paperwork to be able to export. But since then I found others that have already made kangaroo tales. Also having said this when I want to do is re-glue a kangaroo tail on a 200mm wheel for my T8. Now I know someone will say hell you can get away with it with a scrap and I do thus far but why not; I've seen of such methods. Which leaves me really intrigued. The key is merging that joint on their ends.

Anyway, enough for now thank you Phil

I've read somewhere on a forum that when running to CBN wheels at one time on a tarmac that the machine definitely slows down almost to a crawled rotation. As if the T8 does not have enough torque to spin to heavyweight wheels. Although there have been others who have stated, while having a diamond wheel on the left and the lesser weighted spartan plastic core wheel on the right that there was no issue with slowness of spin.

Hanns has stated to me that this will not be an issue when running to CBNs on one T8 with the extended bolt at one time.

This is almost certainly caused by water dripping onto the rubber drive wheel, rather than a lack of sufficient motor torque.  If the drive wheel gets wet, it causes the drive shaft to slip, which seems like a torque issue if you don't understand what's happened.  I use a 3D printed guard over the drive wheel to minimize the issue, but it still happens occasionally.  Then it's just a matter of drying off the wheel with a rag or paper towel.

yes, thank you I've done the same Shcleifjunkies Has the best 3-D plastic covers right over the drive wheel and the drip trait to its side

I've been trying to fine-tune that set up myself.
I'm actually awaiting the Shop fox electric adjustable table that can also hold two T8s side-by-side. I also like sitting down on my desk chair and bending over to a little table that I bought on Amazon.

I'd say it's about 10" x 9" and 11" high. then I drilled in with four screws to the platform of this table 18 x 14" plastic tray to hold water dripage. I can't figure out how to upload a picture. I'm sure it's what it's in one of those icons up top but can't figure it out. You can also order cheap silicone or rubber doggy mats on Amazon that has a little bit of a lip as well. 

I like the late Dr Vadim Kraichuk Sitting down set up. It's a lot more sturdier than mine not that mine shakes. It's pretty sturdy. But I might build another two by fours as with his.  

Then there's lighting that's another matter altogether as well. I'm awaiting a special lamp from Wood Turners Wonder as well.

Rick Sir, receiving them can be problematic, especially with some of the laws within the different states down there. Every state differs to allowing or disallowing entry for various species. That is something one has to get their info to.

 

Yes Baz's videos are amazing. I have subscribed. Love them straight to the point concise, clear and very informative. I would strongly recommend as well.

Phil.

I also must add that Slipakniven out of Sweden also sells CBN wheels,that I also have that can also run in normal tap water.

And I do have Tormek's diamond wheels but I gotta say man that ACC stuff can get pricey, even with the filtering of. I've seen videos of others using a sponge as well, which is something I'm gonna do some more exploration towards. Presently I do not like to grind dry. I've heard some horror stories with the possibility of fires from the dust, especially when the workshop is in the basement; even with the best of the best of air dust colectores. Yes it's all dependent on the steel/blade type material one grinds as well.  Furthermore l had my place catch on fire years ago, unrelated of course thank the Lord above so today I'm even more apprehensive towards dry grinding, either with belt or a variable speed grinder.

Anyveeee, izzzza learning...Filippo

Well there are other outfits such as Schleifjunkies (Hanns) that sells 3D prints of added complete trough systems for second wheel adaptions with extended bolt. Even a drip tray overtop that clips into their FVB & Tormek's FVB also with a 3d honing wheel protector overtop with attachments for a second trough system capability. I have it. She clips in perfectly but l haven't tried a second wheel yet. Their CBNs can run on tap water. He states this as such as well whereas WTW dont.

Although there are videos on YouTube explaining tests that were run over a month with Wood Turners Wonder Spartan wheels one with one HoneRite, one with tap water and one with Tormek's ACC. Either way, his test prove when running with WTW's wheels in water with whatever additive is ok. But yet they will not claim that it's OK to run in water other than their Tornado wheels.


I've read somewhere on a forum that when running to CBN wheels at one time on a tarmac that the machine definitely slows down almost to a crawled rotation. As if the T8 does not have enough torque to spin to heavyweight wheels. Although there have been others who have stated, while having a diamond wheel on the left and the lesser weighted spartan plastic core wheel on the right that there was no issue with slowness of spin.

Hanns has stated to me that this will not be an issue when running to CBNs on one T8 with the extended bolt at one time.

US-430 is fine, but what about an US-900? With this bad boy Tormek can be used even as a sword sharpening machine

Or...

What's the hole for at the base of your added angle plate?

I certainly watched the first one also maybe even the second. Very informative I love his style of simplicity and more, so damn his patience.

Also, the kangaroo tail strops. Oh my God. But damn unfortunately, with all the regulations concerning those tails, they can only be shipped within Australia. Because I'd certainly buy a couple of the doctors recommended size in length which may have been 24 or 26 inches by about 6 inches wide.

Anyway, somehow, I've gotta find a way to get them to Canada.
With all those damn regulations.

Talking about this, I wonder why, even if it was locally made and sold in Australia, why haven't they ever made kangaroo tail adhered to a Tormek styled wheel?
And not necessarily a Tormek style But for any grinder type.

I get it may be more expensive I gather, but how I'm sure there's enough of us crazies that would really consider it.

Anyway, thank you Ken.