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I see one main difficulty with this. How does one measure the grit size precisely in this dynamic grit changing situation.
I think many of us here are used to the stone becoming smoother or rougher with either the stone grader or diamond plates (I have both) but measuring these figures seems pretty arbitrary really. We have no idea if the 250 or 1000 grit is actually accurate or not.
The stone seems to be the roughest just after using the diamond truing tool. It does not stay like that long though.

Well, it may work OK.

This is not what you asked but just in case it is useful...

Quite a few people here use diamond coated plates of different grades to grade the stone. It has been discussed here a lot.
I bought 80 grit and 400 grit diamond plates from Aliexpress very cheaply which work well.

Something like these...

The ones I got are rigid enough to flatten the stone as well instead of using the Tormek truing tool. You may need some adaptation (or an imaginative idea) for keeping the stone round at the same time depending on the size of the diamond plate if you want to do this.

Hello and welcome to the forum.
Is the blade worn something like this?
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/BPWKJC/an-old-chefs-knife-which-has-been-sharpened-until-the-blade-is-worn-BPWKJC.jpg
It would be useful to see a photo of your knife to be able to advise you better.
"A picture is worth a thousand words" as they say...

Danny

Hello,
if you had taken some time too read the Tormek site you would understand what exactly is included with whatever machine. They are pretty clear, in my opinion.

https://tormek.com/en/products/sharpening-machines/tormek-t-8-custom#h-Includedinthebox

https://tormek.com/en/products/sharpening-machines/tormek-t-8-original#h-Includedinthebox

The stone grader is included with the T-8 original. You decided to buy the T-8 Custom....
If someone wants a new wheel to replace a worn out wheel there is no point in including another wheel dresser.

In any case, the stone is only about 30-40$ if you want it.

You do realise that you will also need the TT-50 wheel dresser to keep the SG-250 wheel true !!

Danny

search for 'dagger' on the forum or 'double edge'.
It brings up topics like this one
https://forum.tormek.com/index.php/topic,5751.msg42186.html#msg42186

These (and others like them) are available...
https://schleifjunkies.de/en/product/leather-wheel-250x35-smooth-surface-to-the-end-trigger/

The main difficulty is using it on the Tormek with the grinding wheel in place. Honing wheels like this can be mounted on the other side usually with an adapter like this
https://schleifjunkies.de/en/product/adapter-for-2-wheel/

Also longer USB supports
https://schleifjunkies.de/en/product/toolbar-tormek-ready-double-sided/

These items are available eslewhere too.

The problem is that there is not enough room for longer knives if you set it up like this.

A better solution would be to have a different setup.

Either remove the grinding wheel and put the honing wheel in its place (not my favourite idea)

Put the honing wheel on a different machine. It is not essential to use another Tormek for this. You may be able to improvise...
Some details of my idea on this thread
https://forum.tormek.com/index.php?msg=38933

More junk from China.

Have you actually seen or tried using or sharpening these knives?
Danny

...If it appears too good to be true then it usually is. If you do find a trusted brand then good but otherwise caveat emptor....

I know, I know    I thought it was worth asking if anyone had used or worked on them.
Danny

All very interesting, thank you.
I was hoping that they might keep their edge for longer than the knives I have here do but I suppose that is not easy to judge. Maybe I should get just one and find out as BPalv says   
Danny

Just had a look at how much the Shun Gyuto costs and it is about 220 euros here in France. About 5 times the price of the Chinese ones   
which do appear to basically be a copy.

OK, interesting, thanks
Danny

Sorry, not sure if this post should be in the knife sharpening or the general section...

Hello,
I was wondering if anyone has any experience or opinions of the hordes of chef knives on eBay and Amazon and aliexpress etc. that claim to use AUS10 or VG10 steel in the core of their 'dasmascus' style knives.
Is the steel as hard as they claim?
Do they keep their edge well?
Is the general quality OK?
Or any other observations you may have...

There are quite a few reviews on youtube with in depth testing like these suggesting they are actually rather good, especially for the price.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1EPsqfodfk and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EDjDkeeXwg

I have found 3 knife sets for a very reasonable 110-120 euros on Amazon for example
https://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B0CMD4BZL8?smid=A1X6FK5RDHNB96&th=1
and here on ebay for a similar set at about 95 euros
https://www.ebay.fr/itm/317413234837
or here
https://www.amazon.fr/Zelite-Infinity-Inoxydable-Professionnel-Alpha-Royal/dp/B0110EKTUU

I know they are obviously not like the high quality and high price knives which can be found elsewhere but does anyone here have any real experience of how these knives really are?

I know, I know, in life you get what you pay for but......


....I have to say I am tempted   

Danny

I have also ordered items from this supplier to me here in France and had no problems at all. The order was shipped the day after, delivery was efficient and communication was excellent.

I can only presume that there is a good reason for the delay or lack of response...
As I understand, it is just a small company, possibly just Andreas (sorry, is it Hanns?) himself.
He does appear to be active on youtube in the last few days.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXrUUQ1rYQ4
If you have a Google account, maybe you could send him a message on that latest video. I am sure if it is in English he will manage to understand or translate OK.

Or, maybe a phone call, as HaioPaio says, could resolve the matter.

Danny

295€ in France...
https://coutelleriemarcin.com/fr-fr/collections/tormek/products/tormek-sj-250-meule-japonais-250-x-50-mm-pour-t8-et-t7-p4000

The company is located in Ciney, Belgium.

Yes, you are correct. My apologies. I am used to reading their site in French, I forgot.
They do deliver fairly cheaply to France, Belgium, Germany and possibly free delivery to the Netherlands.

295€ in France...
https://coutelleriemarcin.com/fr-fr/collections/tormek/products/tormek-sj-250-meule-japonais-250-x-50-mm-pour-t8-et-t7-p4000