I realize that the universal support in the vertical (back of the machine) needs to be lifted to accommodate the size of the knife to the stone.... And then for the micro-adjust to work..that not to lock the set knob but fine dial the proper degree with the micro-adjust... Getting the idea for proper angle... A lot to learn here... Thanks for the responses.... I just tried Steve Bottorff's way of doing it with the universal in the horizontal position... I almost like this better....