I just bought the holder for my dry 6" grinder about 10$ in your money and used the 'bent piece of stainless with a nut' from the Tormek! I always do any major reshaping on the 6" grinder then move to the Tormek system, yes I agree it does take a while to get used to. Stick with it I'm only about 6 weeks into mine. I watch the video that can with the turners kit to give some major help.