Hi
I want to move the support bracket over to the other side and use the SVM-45 Jigg to have the correct angle when honing. Is there a way to do that?
Quote from: Edwe on January 26, 2019, 03:13:08 PM
Hi
I want to move the support bracket over to the other side and use the SVM-45 Jigg to have the correct angle when honing. Is there a way to do that?
You mean something like wootz Front Vertical Base?
https://forum.tormek.com/index.php?topic=3627.0
If so, he sells them... there's also info in this thread for making one...
https://forum.tormek.com/index.php?topic=2635.0
(Hope that's what you mean).
Yes thats exactly what I need.
Not sure the shipping fee from Australia to Sweden would be comfortable though ;)
Is there maybe anyone in Scandinavia building this setup or similar?
Quote from: Edwe on January 26, 2019, 03:43:27 PM
Yes thats exactly what I need.
Not sure the shipping fee from Australia to Sweden would be comfortable though ;)
Is there maybe anyone in Scandinavia building this setup or similar?
I don't know of anyone else building them.
If you can get a BGM-100 (https://www.tormek.com/international/en/accessories/other-accessories/bgm-100-bench-grinder-mounting-set/)... you don't have to make a Front Vertical Base (FVB)... you could also mount it to a block of wood or something, and mount it in front of the Tormek, kinda like how it's done for a bench grinder, only higher, (mainly just not as convenient). But, if you can obtain the supplies (or something similar) in the 2nd thread I linked... the FVB is really not too difficult to build.
Thanks again cbwx34
I even recognized I have look at that thread and even commented in it about it a year ago but didnt get my thumb out of my **s
I have Now ordered the XB-100 to force me to do this cause I really need it.
Thanks again for your support
As CB says, the Front Vertical Base is easy to make. As a small tweak (but one I liked), I used 12x200mm stainless steel bolts (with the heads cut off) instead of 12mm threaded rod. That way, you have a short length of thread where you bolt the rods to the rectangular box, but smooth rods to slide through the collar mounts on the machine. (I don't see the need for a fine adjustment on these rods, so I don't miss having threaded rod.)
Gord
Quote from: Edwe on January 26, 2019, 05:29:11 PM
Thanks again cbwx34
I even recognized I have look at that thread and even commented in it about it a year ago but didnt get my thumb out of my **s
I have Now ordered the XB-100 to force me to do this cause I really need it.
Thanks again for your support
Cool. Hope it works out... post the result when you're done! (Good catch on just getting the XB-100... forgot about that).
Quote from: GKC on January 26, 2019, 06:35:33 PM
As CB says, the Front Vertical Base is easy to make. As a small tweak (but one I liked), I used 12x200mm stainless steel bolts (with the heads cut off) instead of 12mm threaded rod. That way, you have a short length of thread where you bolt the rods to the rectangular box, but smooth rods to slide through the collar mounts on the machine. (I don't see the need for a fine adjustment on these rods, so I don't miss having threaded rod.)
Gord
Good idea too... you're right, probably no need for a fine adjustment... I don't use one anyway.
I think the supposed importance of the microadjust is generally overblown. I think having one universal support bar with microadjust is necessary for using the TT-50 truing tool. For other jigs, I consider it "convenient" rather than essential.
Ken
Quote from: GKC on January 26, 2019, 06:35:33 PM
As CB says, the Front Vertical Base is easy to make. As a small tweak (but one I liked), I used 12x200mm stainless steel bolts (with the heads cut off) instead of 12mm threaded rod. That way, you have a short length of thread where you bolt the rods to the rectangular box, but smooth rods to slide through the collar mounts on the machine. (I don't see the need for a fine adjustment on these rods, so I don't miss having threaded rod.)
Gord
Thanks for the tip Gord
But will 200mm be long enough?
Quote from: Edwe on January 27, 2019, 10:12:40 AM
Quote from: GKC on January 26, 2019, 06:35:33 PM
As CB says, the Front Vertical Base is easy to make. As a small tweak (but one I liked), I used 12x200mm stainless steel bolts (with the heads cut off) instead of 12mm threaded rod. That way, you have a short length of thread where you bolt the rods to the rectangular box, but smooth rods to slide through the collar mounts on the machine. (I don't see the need for a fine adjustment on these rods, so I don't miss having threaded rod.)
Gord
Thanks for the tip Gord
But will 200mm be long enough?
Well read trough the trad again and I answer my self as the longest bults in the tread were 8" (203mm) :)
Now I have to order the tube.
I could choose between these 2
(https://www.bengtssonssmide.se/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/VKR-KKR-raktangul%C3%A4r-722x800.jpg)
50x30x3mm
or this
(https://www.bengtssonssmide.se/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Svetsad-h%C3%A5lprofil-rektangul%C3%A4r-2-722x800.jpg)
50x25x2mm (there is also 50x30x2mm)
Witch one is strong enough?
Another question
How do you mount the BGM-100?
With nuts on the backside or do you make treads in the box?
Quote from: Edwe on January 27, 2019, 11:36:57 AM
Now I have to order the tube.
I could choose between these 2
50x30x3mm
or this
50x25x2mm (there is also 50x30x2mm)
Witch one is strong enough?
Mine is 50x25x3mm... but it's aluminum, (and what was available locally). Jan listed his was steel at 2mm thick... I doubt strength will be an issue between the two you posted, it shouldn't see a lot of force in use.
Quote from: Edwe on January 27, 2019, 01:05:25 PM
Another question
How do you mount the BGM-100?
With nuts on the backside or do you make treads in the box?
I used bolts and nuts on mine.
Thanks again :)
I made a question to the seller, lets se what he answer.
Quote from: Edwe on January 27, 2019, 10:12:40 AM
Thanks for the tip Gord
But will 200mm be long enough?
Yes, I have found them to be plenty long. In fact, for all operations I have done with a FVB, most of the rods are inboard and only 2-3cm extend outside the collars.
For the box, I used hollow aluminium box bar in SAE dimensions: 1"x2"x1/8" thick. The shortest piece I could get was enough for about six FVBs ::)
Gord
Thanx Gord :)
I purchased a VFB from Wootz (KnifeGrinders in Australia). I have not had a chance to use it yet, however, it looks well designed and manufactured. I regard Wootz highly. The other versions also seem impressive to me.
For the mere mortals among us, which includes me, I think controlled honing will consistently produce sharper results than freehand. A VFB seems a logical aid. I plan to incorporate mine into my standard knife sharpening technique.
Ken
Quote from: Ken S on January 29, 2019, 12:47:32 AM
I purchased a VFB from Wootz (KnifeGrinders in Australia). I have not had a chance to use it yet, however, it looks well designed and manufactured. I regard Wootz highly. The other versions also seem impressive to me.
For the mere mortals among us, which includes me, I think controlled honing will consistently produce sharper results than freehand. A VFB seems a logical aid. I plan to incorporate mine into my standard knife sharpening technique.
Ken
+1 on that Ken
Lets see tomorrow what I can achieve
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(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/t2Z22OMC5Fp43tHPLzvjS6IFNx5DTV51ch1ZUBvifXwfv0OnnFVqTw1vbHnueR8SCgtg0lCiO9NCHYuWbiduV47S-Ag3QjTfBR0vdTQSr34VKtYJtMe-UxudyZEgbQsw9lSBr8YLHEJLMhX3tpemXJPGo1xN22qGGrb2Hxru_UoDwuoC0VMf8wvCuu73DW2dkpEloa5KOiZYvXun3d14SkEiEvhhz82HrS-p85fgSprlniQEQQ-RIwZnUBb_cNvcLKzvu5tK_ZKEgJkVwezuIxrPquADgm32iWhqIeH8q3gtbPtFVNbaO1xWutHjdnOjkkI_jYuUNyQaPrZ1cigqEKboo0X1Eegbhjjm8Q3ZSO0dhT71PqZN3YyRjmWm61nkQ_4MEaNCuv_pj4HTx5h5FRMDTk4aS9-qWO54e6D2UGgna2dXEH46iTfT5LRAP91bxRIUFpAjTGiZQPbYpqNEoXcw4S-zqrN78_oz1LkPLoRHqsQi9nBQFulRfn6-7c5FcZxFflDoYjhVlygOHitc4h_xVpmZQdche2fmsm_p2kDegB2FO7APVAji9LG7zsgoKPPsUc7Fzq-X7rTOeC8k4hulw11rRjBHIuVGhmMhMMyn1HyNeW_zgry2VnPotoYnvhy1rc0YcP0X-XYYV6HXnGWrFg=w691-h921-no)
Hopes pictures shows for all of you, its a bit hassling sharing Google photos.
Thanks all for your support in this projekt
Well done, Edwe!
Ken
Just did a quick test, both with a new sharpened and just honed a bit dull knife.
Made a big difference for me ;D
Quote from: Edwe on February 03, 2019, 11:14:39 AM
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Hopes pictures shows for all of you, its a bit hassling sharing Google photos.
Thanks all for your support in this projekt
I can't see 'em. :-\
Darn, I did check both with Chrome and IE even not logged in to the forum :(
Now? I did an adjustment
Quote from: Edwe on February 03, 2019, 03:43:47 PM
Darn, I did check both with Chrome and IE even not logged in to the forum :(
Now?
I can see that one.
An alternative method (may be easier?) is to save the pic to your computer... then just attach it to the post (I attached your picture below). (You can then copy the link and insert it back into the post if you want)...
(https://forum.tormek.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3861.0;attach=3021)
The FVB looks great! Thanks!
We program Windows software to set grinding/honing angle on home-made Frontal Vertical Base (Windows only) - details on our website
http://knifegrinders.com.au/11Shop.htm (http://knifegrinders.com.au/11Shop.htm)