I regularly check the tormek.com website for new events. I just found one, the SE-77 Square Edge jig.
I have no information other than what is posted on the website. For years I have been hoping Tormek would offer a square edge jig capable of grinding a camber on plane blades. It looks like the new jig not only does this, but can handle other tricks as well.
Go to tormek.com and look at the top left. ( you can reach it from the upper right side of the main forum page.
Ken
PS For those of you who like to stay current with new Tormek events, a regular check of the main website is useful. If you happen to notice something before I do, please post
I noticed the SE77 earlier today – and I must say that it would appear to have the ability to overcome a lot of the trials and tribulations that many subscribers, including myself, have posted with regard to the SE-76.
I have just checked the importer's website, and there it is at £47.95 and the SE-76 for £52.96! They do not state whether it is actually available.
However, on checking a large tool distributer, which I understand is part of the importer's business group, they too list it, but out of stock. The SE-76 is also out of stock and no longer available.
How's this for a suggestion?
A certain tool supplier in the UK, now and then makes a new tool available to members of a certain forum, and each of those who register interest get a maximum of a week to try out said tool, pass it on, and report their findings on the forum. Maybe Tormek should make an offer like that with a SE-77.
Robin,
I think you have a good idea about passing around a new tool among the forum for a one week trial. I suspect it would generate enough sales to more than pay for the program.
I think the forum has made a major breakthrough with this new square edge jig. In the past, we have not been notified about new offerings from Tormek. We found out from premature magazine ads or emails from dealers, second hand. That irked me. Today I received the press release email which was sent out today. Monday I will receive the official dealer notice simultaneously with the dealers. We will be getting good information in a timely manner. I will post anything I learn on the forum.
A couple early thoughts on the new square edge jig:
1) The angle adjustment "tweaking" with the two small knobs seems a real step forward for getting chisels right on square. I think that will save a lot of frustration.
2) The new jig is made of zink. If it is anything like the new gouge jig, the machining should be more precise. I consider the new gouge jig a major improvement. I hope the new square edge jig is, also.If it can do a nice, controlled camber for plane blades, that's a real plus, something I have hoped for since I first began using the Tormek.
I will keep you posted.
Ken
Will be watching Jeff's old company site as well, since I know upgrade parts can be bought there. (not sure about Afffinity's site and how easy to know what parts are)
In the case of the new gouge jig, the SVD-186, almost the entire jig consists of new parts. For anyone wishing to upgrade, the logical choice is to sell the SVD-185 and go with a new jig. At first glance, having not seen it yet, the SE-77 looks the same way.
I predict that most of the jigs will be redesigned in the next very few years. The new zink casting/machining technology really makes a difference. The old jigs still work as well as when they were new; the new jigs just work better.
Ken
Just to update folks on the new SE76. I've been using it in anger for a few weeks now, probably 2 months in fact and it's brilliant. It's not missed a beat yet with my narrower/smaller gouges. My Tormek is now dedicated to gouges and it handles them all (elliptical grinds only). The water cooled gives the best edge.
I still grind wide surface area tools on other media due to the efficiency but for little steel removal and the necessity for a fine edge it's superb. The new jig enables the inclusion of my full set of bowl and spindle gouges (not the roughing gouge which has a square grind needing a different jig)
Rob,
I am pleased you posted on the new gouge jig. (known on this side of the pond as the SVD-186. The new square edge jig is the SE-77 :) )
I thought it would work well with your smaller gouges. I'm glad it is up to standards for our turning department!
I think it is worthy of a serious look by turners using the older SVD-185; it really is a major improvement.
Ken
Whoops...I'm getting my product names confused (senior moment). Thanks for the errata Ken :-)
Now where was that brain exercise machine :o
Sorry, Rob. I didn't realize my senioritis was contagious. Best remedy is plenty of rest, vitamin C, and a couple pints. :'(
Ken
Rob, my brain exercise machine is my endeavour to understand the posts of this forum. :)
English language of your posts I found more rich and colourful than the average. My last challenging situation was your sentence: "I've been using it in anger for a few weeks now, probably 2 months in fact and it's brilliant."
We have discussed it in my English lesson, and the tutor explained the meaning to us. So now it is fine with me. But the fact that English has the largest vocabulary of any language in the world sometimes threatens me also. :(
Jan
Jan,
I don't think English has so many native words; we just plagerize by failing to footnote our sources. A perfect example is "robot" which we borrowed from your countryman.
Some of our most "colorful" words which we euphamisticly call "Anglo-Saxon" words were originally Dutch. We are shameless plagerists.
Back in the days of VHS, there was an excellent series with journalist, Robert MacNeil called The Story of English. It has been reissued on DVD. I believe that you, like me, would find it fascinating.
When I was a student, I met Dr. Davidson Nicol. He was the United Nations Ambassador from Sierra Leone. His command if the English was head and shoulders above any English speaker I have ever met. This may have been influenced by his having earned MD and PhD degrees from Cambridge. :)
Ken
Yes Ken, you are correct, the pool of native words is limited. But all the words borrowed from other languages are for a student of English new words, tons of new words. ;)
Jan
Jan, there is a difference between English and American.
The "Golden Age" of the English language is generally considered the time of Shakespeare and the King James Version of the Bible. I believe we are a bit late in arriving to the party..... :(
Ken
Jan,
The English language can be confusing for those native speakers as well. (including me)
I also wondered why he was using it in anger?
But you can say the same saying in English, and depending on your tone, it can mean different things. So you can read it different ways as well, depending on your mood (and in part why smiley's exist, to help define meaning.... aka serious, sarcastic, etc).
Then you have the punctuation thing.
Let's have your sister over for dinner.
Let's have your sister over, for dinner.
they are not the same thing. The second is an invite, the first involves cannibalism. All due to a coma.
Clever, SADW!
Ken
My apologies for the profound, nee abyssal deployment of the Mother tongue Jan. I'm certain your English educator will cherish, laud and value such a "rotund" sentence and vocabulary structure as opposed to the more perfunctory style typified by dry English text books. :-)
SADW - I sincerely hope there wasn't a "coma" in the sentence!
Jeffs55, Ken, SADW and Rob thank you for your explanations. :) The majority of unknown words and idioms I easily find on web. But in the case of "using it in anger", my googling was not so helpful.
SADW, your wondering why Rob used the phrase "using it in anger", pleased me. On the other hand, your sentence: "I don't on the moderator.", was also difficult for me, but I sensed the meaning. Our English teacher was wondering about the meaning. He told me that the meaning should be clear from the context. But it was the first sentence of the post. :-\
Please do not change your vocabulary structure because of me, I will try to improve my skill and adopt to your expressions. I partly enjoy the language difficulties. ;)
Jan
Jan.
This is one issue with an interactive forum.
My post, I expect would have make more sense if I had quoted what I was responding to (but multiquote isn't in use on this forum, quoting here is less useful then other forums). From the time I started to type, until I hit send, a poster typed in between.
The people are the best aspect of this forum. There are other features, like the lack of multiquote, or the screwed up search engine (normally happens during some upgrade in the past), are not so good aspects.
OK, SADW. I do not complain in any case, because the real life expressions I encounter here are enriching my vocabulary and fill the gaps from the English class education. Above some level the knowledge of a foreign language is rewarding, e.g. usage of idioms for description of the same situations. :)
On the other hand, according to the German philosopher Martin Heidegger, the innermost creative thinking happens in the mother tongue. ;)
Jan
An anthropologist once told me that one of the reasons the Brit's are so inventive and innovative as a culture is down to the language. It's that very wide vocabulary you lament Jan.
Apparently when your language has multiple ways of describing accurate technical paradigm's, it's an aid to creative visualisation and therefore inventiveness. Kind of make sense.
So we're not just imperialist war mongers, we're thinkers too :-)
I agree with you, Rob, the rich vocabulary is a definite advantage on your side. :)
It's just one thing that makes me wonder, why you Brits need to make fun of the French? :-\
Jan
Jan,
Not a Brit, but I remember James Burke doing a show called connections. And in one episode, some of the talk was about the fighting between the two and how the French used an innovation to help win the war at one point, then subjugated them to speaking French, which changed the language:
"By adapting the medieval Afghani stirrup, the French enabled their horsemen to fight more effectively and defeat the Anglo-Saxon British in the battle of Hastings in 1066. French Norman rule over the British Isles brought changes to the language spoken in Britain, as the Anglo-Saxons sought to prove their refinement by learning the Anglo-Norman language of their French rulers. This contributed to the shift from Anglo-Saxon "Old English" to Middle English, which later developed further into the English we use today on either side of the pond"
So it may be from complicating their language further.
SADW, thank you for the interesting historical reminder! :) I have heard about passionate discussions concerning possible significant role of stirrups in spreading feudalism on the Continent.
Jan
Rob,
When you Brits are not out war mongering, you have given the world a fine collection of murder mysteries. From Shakespeare, Authur Conan Doyle, and Agatha Christie to the vast collection of BBC murder series, you are top shelf. Murder must be a popular pasttime in the UK. :)
On a more serious note, I believe idioms can add color and flavor to language, any language. For the benefit of our members whose only training in English ( or other languages) is proper English taught in schools or universities, I try to note in parentheses, "English idiom meaning ..............". I would encourage everyone to do the same, lest we become involved in more "Bob's your uncle" puzzles.
Ken
I suspect the real rulers were not the Normans, but their Anglo-Saxon wives. :)
Interesting observation about the stirrups.
Ken
by the by..."used in anger" simply means really put something through it's paces ie test it hard. I do enjoy language but one thing the Brit's are shameful at is learning foreign languages. The amount of times I travel to Paris (I have a sister who has lived there for 40 years) and over hear Brits trying to make themselves understood, by simply raising the volume of their pitiful attempts at pidgin French. It is embarrassing!
I take considerable trouble to at least attempt to respect the natives by using their own language when in their country. They cant understand a word I'm saying of course....but I feel better :-)
When I was returning from studying in Barcelona in 1969, the one place I could not understand a word one an spoke was in London. His Cockney accent and me New Jersey dialect just didn't connect. Ihad no problem understanding the British pint. :)
Ken
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi_6SaqVQSw
Even the Brits make fun of themselves and the English language.
Great link, SADW!
On the days when imperialist war mongering is slow, the Brits do some "cracking good" comedy! :)
If the BBC had existed then, my pilgrim ancestors might have stayed and remained tuned to the tele.
Ken