What software do people use for angle setting on a T-8?
I stopped using a T-8 about 5 years ago. At the time I had KnifeGrinders software.
It no longer loads on my i-phone and the app is no longer available in App Store.
Any thoughts?
I primarily sharpen kitchen knives
Thanks
Quote from: Jeff_Coates on December 20, 2024, 10:51:31 PMWhat software do people use for angle setting on a T-8?
I stopped using a T-8 about 5 years ago. At the time I had KnifeGrinders software.
It no longer loads on my i-phone and the app is no longer available in App Store.
Any thoughts?
I primarily sharpen kitchen knives
Thanks
Try this one...
https://connect.calcapp.net/?app=dsa8z4
... it's similar to the KG apps you're used to.
(Or check the links in my signature.)
Jeff,
The Calcapp program that CB mentioned is accurate, quick to learn and use, and uncomplicated. That stated, the new Tormek KS-123 knife setting tool has large made setting programs not as essential as before. I think a combination of the KS-123 and Calcapp as a ready reserve should cover the waterfront.
Ken
Both ways will work.
If you are batch sharpening, for customers say, then the calcapp is great for setting your usb to a set angle for a set blade projection. Then you need a batch of old style , adjustable svm jigs to enable you set the correct projection for each knife. Just one set up for as many knives/svm jigs you have.
The new angle setting jig and kj jig really comes into its own for say just one knife here and there or a batch of differing knives, grinding angles, blade thicknesses etc.
For example, I just sharpened a dozen kitchen knives all at 15 degrees/side using the first set up. Saved a load of time!
The same customer gave 2 non typical knives to sharpen with extra thick blade stock , wide blades and requiring 20 degrees/ side. The angle setter and self centring kj45 made set up quick and easy.
Quote from: Sir Amwell on December 21, 2024, 11:57:37 AMBoth ways will work.
If you are batch sharpening, for customers say, then the calcapp is great for setting your usb to a set angle for a set blade projection. Then you need a batch of old style , adjustable svm jigs to enable you set the correct projection for each knife. Just one set up for as many knives/svm jigs you have.
The new angle setting jig and kj jig really comes into its own for say just one knife here and there or a batch of differing knives, grinding angles, blade thicknesses etc.
For example, I just sharpened a dozen kitchen knives all at 15 degrees/side using the first set up. Saved a load of time!
The same customer gave 2 non typical knives to sharpen with extra thick blade stock , wide blades and requiring 20 degrees/ side. The angle setter and self centering kj45 made set up quick and easy.
Congratulations. You just summed up the whole discussion in a very short, clear, concise manner. Thank you. Oh, and by the way, I couldn't agree more...
Rick
Quote from: Sir Amwell on December 21, 2024, 11:57:37 AMBoth ways will work.
If you are batch sharpening, for customers say, then the calcapp is great for setting your usb to a set angle for a set blade projection. Then you need a batch of old style , adjustable svm jigs to enable you set the correct projection for each knife. Just one set up for as many knives/svm jigs you have.
The new angle setting jig and kj jig really comes into its own for say just one knife here and there or a batch of differing knives, grinding angles, blade thicknesses etc.
For example, I just sharpened a dozen kitchen knives all at 15 degrees/side using the first set up. Saved a load of time!
The same customer gave 2 non typical knives to sharpen with extra thick blade stock , wide blades and requiring 20 degrees/ side. The angle setter and self centring kj45 made set up quick and easy.
Please add this to the manual Tormek and make the adjustable stop available again ;)
I own the KS-123, and end up more often than not using a software-based solution, even when sharpening a single or few knives at a time.
There is some friction in the KS-123 that, coupled with the flexibility of the plastic needle indicating the sharpening angle, makes for a 1 dps-ish precision. And despite the fact that Tormek wrote in their KS-123 patent that "There may be errors in computation-based solutions", I find the calculator-based process to be much more repeatable, resulting in a burr being raised in just a couple of strokes on the ungraded SG. This also minimizes the amount of metal removed, increasing the lifetime of knives (or at least the time before requiring thinning).
Also, once you get the hang of it - and , granted, with a bit of hardware for quick projection distance measuring/setting - I'm not sure the KS-123 setup is a lot faster.
All in all, I think the KS-123 has the advantage of being a reasonably accurate, self-contained solution, but calculators and calipers (and an adjustable projection distance) make for a more efficient process overall.