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Title: Cabinet Scrapers
Post by: Segovia123 on August 09, 2020, 08:38:38 PM
I struggle to get a good edge on my cabinet scrapers, will I be able to put a bur on my scrapers with the T4?

Title: Re: Cabinet Scrapers
Post by: micha on August 09, 2020, 11:46:22 PM
Hi John,
if we're talking about the same type of 'blade-only' cabinet scrapers, I'm afraid you can't use the Tormek for the burr.
Usually the scrapers' old burr is removed by grinding, and a new burr is raised with a solid piece of steel, round or triangular. (I think it's called a burnisher.)
So I'd say you could use the Tormek to prepare the scraper, but not for raising a new burr. Yet I don't know if that would be better than using a file.

If I misunderstood the term, just forget the above :)

Mike



Title: Re: Cabinet Scrapers
Post by: justonething on August 10, 2020, 08:36:53 AM
Burrs on scrapers are indeed done by turning the edge over with a burnisher made from a material that is significantly harder than the scrapers themselves. The edge is usually ground straight and flat, before applying the burnisherhttps://paulsellers.com/2015/02/scraper-burnishers-that-work/ (https://paulsellers.com/2015/02/scraper-burnishers-that-work/) to turn the edge over in a couple of steps, first to turn it a few degrees.  Tormek can be used to prepare the edge, instead of using a file. If you still can't get a good burr, you could try grinding the edge for a 45-degree bevel before burnishing it.
Title: Re: Cabinet Scrapers
Post by: Segovia123 on August 10, 2020, 11:23:53 AM
Quote from: micha on August 09, 2020, 11:46:22 PM
Hi John,
if we're talking about the same type of 'blade-only' cabinet scrapers, I'm afraid you can't use the Tormek for the burr.
Usually the scrapers' old burr is removed by grinding, and a new burr is raised with a solid piece of steel, round or triangular. (I think it's called a burnisher.)
So I'd say you could use the Tormek to prepare the scraper, but not for raising a new burr. Yet I don't know if that would be better than using a file.

If I misunderstood the term, just forget the above :)

Mike

I should have said "good edge" before putting a bur with the burnisher. 
Title: Re: Cabinet Scrapers
Post by: micha on August 10, 2020, 12:13:37 PM
OK. I thought I saw a possible setup for the intended purpose here in the forum, but can't find it now.
This video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyp_sxp3OmE shows that setup around 1:16, using the side of the stone.

That works great. I sometimes use the Tormek for squaring the edges, but still carry a file with the (straight) blades and the burnisher. The first method requires a Tormek :) , the latter a bench or vise and some scrapwood to fix the blade, which is helpful for burnishing, anyway.