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In the Shop => Knife Sharpening => Topic started by: WolfY on June 14, 2018, 08:43:41 AM

Title: Water on the driving wheel when taking of the leather wheel.
Post by: WolfY on June 14, 2018, 08:43:41 AM
As I'm sharpening many knives till I have 5~10 pcs ready for honing, I take of the leather honing wheel.
Then I put the leather wheel back and hone all the knives in a butch.

What bothered me was the water sipping on the rubber drive wheel and make the motor to slipp.
Lately I was tipping the machine a little to the left and the problem disappeared.

No problem to get used to it, sharpening with the USB tilted a little, as I concentrate on the knife and the sharpening.
Brain/ hands get used to it very fast.
Title: Re: Water on the driving wheel when taking of the leather wheel.
Post by: Ken S on June 14, 2018, 11:11:30 AM
WolfY,

I have not experienced water on the drive wheel. My T7 originally came with the stainless steel version of the straight shaft. It was made in 2009, just before the EZYlock. I purchased both the EZYlock and water trough upgrades. I was initially surprised that the "dry side" hardware was not stainless. I suppose the Tormek thinking is that stainless is unnecessasy on the drive wheel side because it is dry.

My first thought is that you may be overfilling your water trough. I started filling my trough less after watching Steve Bottorff work a woodworking show with almost no spillage. Steve had enough water, but only enough. I now fill my trough initially until the water just starts to flow over the grinding wheel. I let the Tormek run until the grinding wheel stops absorbing water, adding water gradually. I stay below the maximum fill line.

I was reluctant to use the tilting magnetic feet which came with the upgrade water trough. My mind did not like the idea of a tilted horizon. As with you, that nonsensical notion soon passed. I still have the tilting feet, but rarely use them. I move my Tormek around a lot. The feet tend to fall off. I welcomed the permanently attached feet of the T4 and T8. Keep in mind that I have never sharpened a knife longer than 200mm (8").

I suggest this might be a good time to do the "annual" bushing regreasing, including checking that the non stainless "dry side" hardware has not started to rust.

Keep us posted.

Ken
Title: Re: Water on the driving wheel when taking of the leather wheel.
Post by: Sharpco on June 14, 2018, 01:42:28 PM
I experienced the problem in the car when running the mobile sharpening service. But I am now using Tormek indoors, and the problem is not happening at all.
Title: Re: Water on the driving wheel when taking of the leather wheel.
Post by: Ken S on June 14, 2018, 03:25:46 PM
Good thought, Sharpco. WolfY, are you transporting your Tormek with the water trough attached and full?

Siphoning your water (or water with ACC solution in the future) into a plastic lidded jar with a turkey baster should solve a water problem during transport. With the EZYlock, removing the grinding wheel during transport eliminates the bent shaft risk.

Ken
Title: Re: Water on the driving wheel when taking of the leather wheel.
Post by: cbwx34 on June 14, 2018, 05:25:35 PM
Quote from: Ken S on June 14, 2018, 03:25:46 PM
...are you transporting your Tormek with the water trough attached and full?
...

If I did that... there wouldn't be any water left in the trough.  ::)  ;D
Title: Re: Water on the driving wheel when taking of the leather wheel.
Post by: cbwx34 on June 14, 2018, 05:30:39 PM
Quote from: WolfY on June 14, 2018, 08:43:41 AM
As I'm sharpening many knives till I have 5~10 pcs ready for honing, I take of the leather honing wheel.
Then I put the leather wheel back and hone all the knives in a butch.

What bothered me was the water sipping on the rubber drive wheel and make the motor to slipp.
Lately I was tipping the machine a little to the left and the problem disappeared.

No problem to get used to it, sharpening with the USB tilted a little, as I concentrate on the knife and the sharpening.
Brain/ hands get used to it very fast.

The older "Supergrind 2000" came "tipped" (at least mine did)... like you, I never found it to matter while sharpening.
Title: Re: Water on the driving wheel when taking of the leather wheel.
Post by: WolfY on June 14, 2018, 05:43:31 PM
Sorry I didn't add all information.
It happens mostly with long 12" knifes. Not a lot of water, but still some that gets to the drive wheel to make it slip and annoy me.
It has nothing to do with the water level. I tend to have the wheel about 1/2~1cm in the water.
No traveling with water or stone on the machine.
Also I always sharpen against the wheel, making the water to run on the knife.

Today I made the new USB with 5dgrs tip. Will eventually true the wheel accordingly. That will have 2 effects. Hopefully :)
1. Water will drip back to water trough "automatically".
2. No need to take of the leather wheel so the knife handle will go free.