Howdy. After numerous times removing the 250 grindstone, just now it refuses to budge. I even took some plier to the lock nut but it is seized big time.
Anyone run into this before? Could use some serious help. Thanks. R :'(
Which system do you have?
Start at 2.09 and go from there if not the ez lock:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX96a9WoAJE
4.37 on for the ez lock.
Edit: if non stainless steel shaft, your probably starting to rust to the stone. That can take more time.
It is a brand new T8. R
If you tried holding both wheels, and spinning them in opposite directions and that doesn't work, does it appear that the nut is on straight, and not cross threaded?
Nut is fine. I just changed the wheel earlier this morning. I have a 4000 grit waterstone and I have changed wheels numerous times with no issues. Then, just now, it's seized. I mean it won't budge. Doesn't look good. R
I just put a pipe wrench on the "EZ LOCK" nut and it won't budge. This is really disappointing. I guess it goes the 2,000 miles back to the dealer. R
Rem, give it a little bit time, the morning is wiser than evening. Lubricate it well. Try to tap it with a wooden mallet, it may loosen the block.
I am afraid it is not reasonable to transport Tormek with the stone on the shaft. The risk that the stone bends the shaft is high. ???
Jan
Thanks, Jan. I'll encourage it with a dead blow mallet. Then, worse comes to worse, I guess I'll have to get nasty with the pipe wrench. I'll keep you posted. Thanks again. R
Rem,
Look at the nut on the end of the grindstone. You will see two arrows. Hold the leather honing wheel and push the grinding wheel smartly in the direction of the loosen arrow. What makes the EZYlock work is the left hand thread. That runs counter to our right hand thread dominated culture. I suspect that the harder you try to loosen the nut, the tighter you make it.
I have not known the EZYlock to fail when loosened in the right direction. I have known several of us to unsuccessfully resort to Channelocks. With great embarrassment, I admit to being part of the Brotherhood of the Channelocks. (Welcome to the club. You are now an official Tormeker. :) )
I suggest you make peace with the universe. When you have reached that state, and not before, take another look at your Tormek.
Keep us posted...either way.
Ken
Ken, I assure you that I am attempting to release the wheel in the correct direction. It is clearly marked "lock" and "unlock". It is threaded in the reverse of customary nuts and bolts. To loosen, it is turned clockwise. As I mentioned, I have two grindstones and I have done this numerous times since I received the second stone about 2 weeks ago. This thing is seized. It will not budge.
Something is fubar.
I am at peace with all. I just finished a workout. But something is seriously wrong. The only thing I did different is that I "trued" the SG-250 a bit earlier. But I don't see how that could have caused this.
Anyway, while I am not a machinist or a mechanic or a mathematician, I am not entirely dim ;). There is something seriously wrong here. I have emailed Tormek and the dealer from whom I bought it. I hope they might have some solutions. Thanks for your response. R
No insult intended, Rem. Wise move, contacting Tormek and your dealer. Hopefully your dealer has a team at the ready. Or, since your part of the world is moving, maybe you'll bump into Stig. :D
Whatever the outcome, please post.
Good luck.......
Ken
Messing with you (MWY), Ken. No insult perceived. :)
I was perhaps a charter member of the Channelocks Brotherhood. I recall my first experience with propane tanks was less that rewarding. Been there, done that.
NO, this is something far more sinister. I can't imagine what has happened but that boy ain't coming off without some substantial horsepower. Maybe I can figure some way to attach my Kubota loader and ..... but I digress.
Right now, I'm thinking that the shaft will have to come out and hopefully slide the wheel off the other end. Then a new shaft will hopefully render me functional. I can send the current shaft with seized EZYLock (a misnomer at the moment) to whomever for evaluation.
A most perplexing situation. I shall keep you all posted with posts. In the meantime, I shall proceed with my affairs sans Tormek. And we were just beginning to be good friends. R ???
Rem,
Maybe you and LuptoM could hook up. He has a Tormek with no loader and you have a Kubota loader.
I don't mean to make light of your dilemma. I hope both you and LuptoM get up to speed soon. In the meantime, aren't the UK and Yukon neighbors? ::)
Ken
Quote from: Ken S on October 16, 2016, 02:49:48 AM
Rem,
Maybe you and LuptoM could hook up. He has a Tormek with no loader and you have a Kubota loader.
I think I'll just get loaded ..........
I don't mean to make light of your dilemma.
No worries. A conundrum to be sure. I shall pursue a solution with uncommon enthusiasm.
I hope both you and LuptoM get up to speed soon. In the meantime, aren't the UK and Yukon neighbors? ::)
Well, we do share the Queen ..... in a manner of speaking.
Ken
RR
Something similar happened once to me when I forgot to put the washer on the shaft before the stone, and the stone stuck against the housing.
Had to release on the other side to pull the shaft out with the stone on it.
Thanks for the suggestion, wootz. Washer is clearly visible. In fact, I never even take it off when I change the grindstones. Everything turns as normal when the machine is on. The EZyLock nut just won't come off.
I think the gods of sharp have turned against me. Sort of a Tormek torment. R
Wootz,
Another excellent thought. We must add it to our repetoire of repair solutions.On your next trip to the Yukon, you must team up with Rem and LuptoM. You three should be able to get get to the bottom of this problem! :)
Ken
Although, now you will pull off the other wheels, pull the shaft, and Murphy will tell the nut to come loose in the process (watch the stone). ::)
Thanks for that, SADW. This is what I want to do. Is this a procedure that I can't screw up? I looked at the shaft replacement kit on the Internet, and looks pretty simple. If this is a straight forward process, I'd like to try it. Is there a diagram of this somewhere? I am somewhat mechanically challenged. Thanks again. R
My suggestion for anyone removing a Tormek shaft shaft is to make a careful diagram of how it goes together. Keep this diagram, or, better still, draw it on a blank page of your handbook for reference. No, Tormek does not provide a good drawing. They should.
Ken
Quote from: Rem on October 16, 2016, 04:51:45 PM
Thanks for that, SADW. This is what I want to do. Is this a procedure that I can't screw up? I looked at the shaft replacement kit on the Internet, and looks pretty simple. If this is a straight forward process, I'd like to try it. Is there a diagram of this somewhere? I am somewhat mechanically challenged. Thanks again. R
Rem, the diagram is on the page 8 of the Safety Instruction, under 'Spare parts list – Tormek T-8'
Can be downloaded from the http://www.tormek.com/en/machines/t8/index.php (http://www.tormek.com/en/machines/t8/index.php) - click on 'Handbook', then 'Download the handbook', enter your registered email, and download 'Safety Instruction and spare part list'.
And so it is. Awesome, dude .... as the young folks say. I never thought to look in the safety manual .... and now have noticed ".. and spare parts list" as part of the title. DUH !!!
You're the man. Wish me luck. Here I go. Fins to the bone. RR
OK, right off the bat, the "drive wheel with friction ring - #73" doesn't want to come off. IS this just a pull off, or is it threaded on??? I removed the "nut - #51". The shaft is threaded. I don't want to force it. I'm thinking it should just pull straight off but don't want to get too rowdy. Thanks. R
It's a "pull off" ... got it. Proceeding with caution. R
I have the wheel and shaft out of the machine. The EZyLock nut is still seized to the shaft. It is tighter than my grip on my wallet. I have a friend who is all things mechanical so I think I'll go see him and we'll get the wheel off of the shaft one way or the other. I'll order a new shaft replacement kit just to be on the safe side. I'd rather not have to send the wheel and shaft to whomever for inspection, then wait and wait for a verdict. Maybe I somehow caused this, who knows ????? The grindstone (wheel) seems ok unless I destroy it in the process. More to come ...... R
Well, I tried to posts a couple pics, but no matter how small I make them, it won't let me. Hard cheese. I'll get the nut off and then we'll see. Thanks for all. Goodbye forever or until I get this nut off the shaft, whichever comes first. R :-\
Well, I got 'er, boys. It's amazing what a Vice-Grip and a pipe wrench will do for you. I took the shaft and attached grindstone out to the garage. Used a pipe wrench on the shaft and a Vice-Grip on the nut, and VOILA !!! it came loose pretty easy.
I can see absolutely no reason why it seized. I can thread the lock nut on as easy as pie. Put it on, take it off. No problem at all. Anyway, I don't trust it. I have ordered a new shaft kit and it should be here in about 10 days. I'm not going to put this set up back into the machine.
If you want to take up a collection for me, I also accept beer and food. That's all for now. Thanks for all your input. I sure hope this doesn't happen to anyone else. R :P
Rem,
Sargeant Preston would be proud of you! Well done.
Ken
Sincere recognition from Willie (the Sgt.) would be high praise, indeed, and highly unlikely. However, I think Rex might have an admiring bark for me. Perhaps. Or maybe not. Anyway, things are rolling along. I'll be back in business soon. R :)
Congrats Rem, I really rejoice with you! :)
Regards to Klondike
Jan
If there is a problem with the shaft assembly, that is a warranty issue. Hopefully you did not pay for a new one.
I did, g-man. I ordered a kit today. Couple reasons .......
1. It takes forever to get stuff up here. It will take two weeks for the kit to arrive from southern B. C., although it can be driven in 2.5 days, easy. Hey, it's the Yukon. Hard cheese (aka tough noogies).
2. I have no idea if they will call this a warranty claim or not. By the time it all gets figured out, I'll be too old to turn the machine on. If they do, then they can reimburse me if they are inclined to do so.
3. Sometimes you just have to take the bull by the tail, and face the situation.
It was a hundred bucks. My wife will just have to put in a few more hours down at the shop. She's ok with that .... or will be as soon as I tell her. ;D ;D 8) She's a pretty good old bear. After 48 years, she's kinda used to me. R
After making sure there is nothing sticky on it (glue from the bench, etc), I would make sure to send a note and some pictures to Tormek itself.
Tormek is aware of Rem's situation. I have every confidence that Tormek will resolve this issue honorably.
My position as moderator did not come with an instruction manual. I try to act in the best interest of our members, while also factoring in Tormek's best interests. Part of that is occasionally communicating with Stig to make sure he is aware of posts where I feel we need his input or help froom Tormek. Stig is very conscientious, however, he has an extremely busy travel schedule. He always responds to my emails.
We must keep in mind that we have two factors in Rem's situation:
First, we have an EZYlock which seized. While a rare occurrance, this has happened. I do not know why this happened. Hopefully we will eventually know the answer. As a career telephone repair technician, I know that some cases are "no trouble found" or "came clear while working". This does not mean there was/is no trouble, just that it cleared. The replacement shaft should resolve the immediate problem for Rem.
Second, we have logistics. I live in Columbus, Ohio, the fifteenth largest city in the US (pop 850,000). Affinity Tool, the US importer, could drive a part to my house in five hours. Two day regular delivery is standard. It is easy to forget the distance involved in the Yukon. Rem does not forget; it is everyday life.
I think Rem has done everything right. In addition to posting, he has communicated with Big Bear Tools, his dealer, who is also the Tormek agent. He has also contacted Tormek support in Sweden. As a mechanical guy, he has made an intelligent, good faith effort to unjam his shaft.
I especially appreciate Rem's attitude. While this should be a warranty issue, he has placed his priority on getting his new Tormek up and running again and ordered a replacement shaft. The cost issue will be resolved one way or another. First order of business is to get working again.
I have dealt personally with Big Bear Tools. I found the service excellent, and would gladly deal with them again. (With international duty and shipping it is not practical for me to deal regularly with them. That is no reflection on Big Bear.)
Even though Stig is on vacation this week, he answered my email. He also referred me to another officer at Tormek. I emailed him and he has replied. I have asked Rem to post how this situation is resolved, whether satisfactorally or unsatisfactorally. I have full faith that Tormek will stand by its product with solid service. I think service, good or bad, should be noted on the forum.
Stay tuned.
Ken
Thanks for all the support from everyone.
I received an email response from Tormek this morning. Basically, he made two comments: he wanted to be sure I was turning the nut in the proper direction. Understandably, this has likely been an issue in the past. And two, he told me to remove the shaft in exactly the manner that I did yesterday. I responded and informed him of my efforts, and that I had already ordered a new shaft replacement kit.
I emailed the entire message thread to Ken just for documentation.
Thanks again for your concern. I've got a feeling that this is just something that might happen on rare occasions. But that's just speculation on my part. Anyway, I've done all I can do, I think. I'll wait for the new shaft to arrive and I'll hopefully get going again. It all worked out, as I now have SNOW to shovel. PSHAW !!!!! The old guy just can't catch a break. Maybe I should wake the wife up and get her started on the shovelling. Or perhaps not. That's it for now. RR
Summarizing a flurry of emails this morning, Tormek (the BIG dogs) has authorized Big Bear Tools (Canadian BIG dogs) to send me the replacement kit + shipping at no charge to me. I have heard from both of them this morning.
Sweet. Thanks to all, in particular Ken S., Tormek and Big Bear Tools.
I am sending the shaft and lock nut that I removed to Big Bear Tools. The Tormek contact said he would be down there soon and would pick it up from them. They want to have a look at it, as I had hoped they would.
All is well. I am very pleased with their response. I could not have asked for or expected more. Well, I guess the guy from Sweden could have flown up here and ....... OK, ok ...... that's maybe a bit over the top. Thanks again. I will update you with any late breaking news. RR ;D
I received my shipping notification and tracking info from Big Bear Tools. It is coming up via Loomis Ground. That is a little disappointing. When my T8 came up the exact same way, they lost track of it for a couple days. Let's hope they do a better job this time. It could be here by Friday, but more likely Monday. Unless it gets lost. Expedited would have been much appreciated.
Having said that, if this turns out to be my biggest complaint, I'm still in good shape. R
r-man,
I just discovered why it takes so long to get deliveries up there in the frozen north!!! :D
(http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/y441/grepper00/Loomis_zps1x1ogslg.jpg)
I LOVE IT !!!!! Request permission to copy your picture and use it for personal, nefarious purposes. That was great, thanks, g-man. r-man
Touché, Grepper! Your wit is civil, but deadly; I love it!
Rem, I am very pleased with the happy resolution, although I share your minor grumble about the unexpedited shipping. Incidentally, "the Tormek contact" is the CEO.
Your experience reinforces my belief in the importance of registering one's Tormek. Equally, it reinforces my belief in involving Tormek support (support@tormek.se) from the start. We on the forum can give you advice and moral support; Sweden can resolve the problem.
best,
Ken
Have at it r-man. :) And... the more nefarious the better!
Ken, sometimes I just can help myself! :)
Don't go restraining yourself on my account .... R 8)
That picture reminds me so much of a old saying we have....
It was sent Pony Express and I think their pony died.
Dear Mr. Rem,
On behalf of the entire Loomis Ground dog team, I would like to thank you for not returning the entire Tormek. Your kindness will make our entire three week trip much more pleasant.
Best wishes,
Rex
Rex, you old dog, you. Long time, no whine.
Yeah, well, I do what I can, which generally ain't much. I always seem to get the shaft, so it was easy to remove this one.
It's always good to hear from you. Keep that sled snow side down. Don't take any wooden bones. And always put your best paw forward. R ???
r-man,
Apparently Lumis is following this forum! I was contacted, and asked to forward this personally signed message to you from a member of their team.
So, doing my due diligence, here follows the message:
Bow wow! ARF! Arff!!!
(http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/y441/grepper00/e796288a-e0d9-42c6-a64d-1e07ee6191e2_zpswhpbw5vr.jpg)
Barking of a dog is described in English as woof, woof or ruff, ruff or arf, arf.
Other nations/cultures hear dog's barking differently: ;)
In Czech, my language - haf, haf
Dutch - blaf, blaf; kef, kef
French - waouh, waouh; ouah, ouah; ouaf, ouaf
German - wuff, wuff; wau wau
Hebrew - hav, hav; hau, hau
Russian - гав-гав (gav-gav); ряв-ряв (ryaf-ryaf angry dogs)
Spanish - guau-guau; gua-gua; jau-jau
Swedish - voff; vov vov; bjäbb bjäbb
Jan
I had no idea what an academically oriented and linguistically competent forum I had signed on to. I speak a little French Canadian husky and that's it. I do appreciate Loomis extending the paw (print) of friendship. If they can get my new shaft kit up here within two weeks, I'll be a happy camper. IF not, well .... I guess one way or another, I'll be getting the shaft.
You boys be careful out there, and keep your bevel to the grindstone. R ;) ;)
Update for the ongoing saga of getting stuff to Rem of the North. Loomis just phoned ... the package is in Edmonton with no identification other than my name. Apparently the waybill info and sender info "fell off" of the package. How does that happen? So now he's gotta phone Big Bear Tools and talk to Dave and get it going again. Delivery was supposed to be tomorrow .... not now.
AND ... just as a bonus ..... Big Bear Tools charged me for the shaft. I emailed them and reminded them that it was supposed to be a warranty replacement. Looks like they can't quite figure out how to refund my VISA. Oh well, I'm used to this nonsense. It will all get worked out some day.
Things just don't tend to happen efficiently to us northern folk. Send money, food or beer. R :P
After my new shaft being lost in Edmonton for a while, I finally got an email this morning indicating that it had arrived in Whitehorse and was out for delivery. That was about 11:30 this morning. It is now 5:40 pm. No sign of it.
So I guess I'll go by Loomis in the morning and see if I can sort things out.
I can promise you one thing .... I will get the shaft !!!! R
Quote from: Rem on October 16, 2016, 02:29:06 AM
Right now, I'm thinking that the shaft will have to come out and hopefully slide the wheel off the other end.
I would try that. Once you get it on the bench you'll be able to get the EzyLock nut off.
I've had mine seize up like that, but a pair of channel locks solved the problem.
Interesting to note that you have experienced the same thing, Herman. I don't feel like quite as big a dufus now. Thanks.
I tried the channel locks, but I had to secure the shaft with a pipe wrench before the nut would come off. It was smartly seized. Anyway, all done and a new shaft assembly is ........... somewhere. Supposedly coming to me ...... somewhere. I'm sure it will arrive ........ someday. Just ain't no need to get in a hurry about stuff getting up here. It will just make you cranky. But I'm not cranky ... DAMMIT !!!!!!! R ;)
I think we have not resolved the issue. At this point, I am not sure whether we have an issue wuth the EZYlock itself, a deficiency in understand and/or communication, or a combination of all of the above.
My initial post in this topic was intended as suggestions to stimulate conversation, and, hopefully, a solution. For the record, I think the EZYlock is one of Tormek's most innovative advances. If it needs a little bump, either mechanically or in technique or communication, I think the effort is worthwhile.
Ken
I am pleased .... nay, ecstatic .... to announce that this morning, at approximately 11:07 am Pacific time, my new shaft assembly was delivered to my wife's shop in downtown Whitehorse. A scant 9 days after the order was placed ..... or was it 10 ?? Anyway, it would appear that is has landed finally .... although I have yet to inspect said package. I will receive it late this afternoon, after my wife's arrival home.
If all is well at that point, then this shall be my last and final post regarding this particular transportation issue. I shall play my banjo for the rest of the day. I will not be using LOOMIS in the future if any other mode of transportation is available, such as horseback, muleback, rabbitback or turtleback.
Fins to the bone. R ::)
Just for clarity .....
THE SHAFT HAS LANDED !!!!
Quote from: Rem on October 27, 2016, 02:58:43 PM
Just for clarity .....
THE SHAFT HAS LANDED !!!!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFvRvSxsW-I
Edited how it should have been, LOL.
having the same problem here
Quote from: playero on October 27, 2018, 06:21:41 PM
having the same problem here
playero, I read thru this thread... kinda looks like the solution (assuming everything else is being done right) is to either pull the shaft out of the machine, and see if you can get the grindstone off, and/or contact Tormek support. Doesn't look like the reason "why" was ever discovered.
Maybe Tormek, having received the "bad" shaft from the earlier posts, has a reason and solution. (If they do, please share).
Jose,
My first wheel was stuck to the shaft. After I finally got it off, I found it was due to rust on the shaft. This is one reason I upgraded to the stainless steel shaft.
If I remember correctly, I used a sharp tap from a dead blow hammer (with a plastic head) on the shaft's end. The "shock" helped loosen it. Do be gentle though. It is easy to damage the shaft or break the stone.
If the stone is at end of life, I recommend you get a new stone and shaft. Easiest approach.
Kind regards,
Rich
Quote from: RichColvin on October 28, 2018, 04:24:33 PM
...snip... a sharp tap from a dead blow hammer (with a plastic head) on the shaft's end. The "shock" helped loosen it. Do be gentle though. It is easy to damage the shaft or break the stone.
...snip...
Kind regards,
Rich
Is what I did recently also. I think it came from grit getting into the joint and drying when the stone was left on the machine too long. That is part of why I take them off and hang them over a milk crate to dry.
That has also happened with the aluminum spacer I use to keep the shaft in place while using just the honing wheel (I take whatever wheel was last used off to do honing.) I had to use a pipe wrench on the spacer to break it free. Now I make sure to wipe off the shaft when going to the spacer. I could of course, drill it out to 1/2" but that offends my machinist side.
Rick
I lubricated with gun lubricant and waited a couple of hours no problem. after inspecting everything no problem found. cleaned and dried all. used the machine today no problem changing stones. now I do not leave the machine with the stone installed.the japanese stone works miracles. now I want the diamond stone. Regards
playero... glad you got it off.
Rich and Rick... just to satisfy my curiosity, was your wheel stuck to the shaft, or was the locking knob stuck? (This thread originally was about the locking knob).
Inquiring minds.... :)
Quote from: cbwx34 on October 29, 2018, 03:17:24 AM
Rich and Rick... just to satisfy my curiosity, was your wheel stuck to the shaft, or was the locking knob stuck? (This thread originally was about the locking knob).
Inquiring minds.... :)
Good clarification. Shaft in my case.
Rick
CB,
In my case, the nut was pretty well rusted on, but that came off after applying some penetrating oil, and then using a wrench to which I applied a quick tap using a hammer. This is standard stuff, so I didn't mention it above.
The grindstone was also pretty well affixed to the shaft, and that is really what I was referring to above.
The washer behind it was also pretty well affixed, but that came off with a little bit of persuasion.
All the metal parts got cleaned up on the wire wheel I have on my bench grinder. That worked acceptably until I got the replacement shaft which I greatly like.
Kind regards,
Rich
Thanks for the replies... since the original post was about the EZ-LOC being stuck... wasn't sure if the hammer part would help.
Still good info to have though, since the stones get stuck too.
the knob was stuck. it came out easily
This situation has come up before, and will probably reappear at some time. I admit that I had an adventure a time or two with my Channelocks.........
I think that we can at least lessen, and possibly eliminate, the problem with very careful technique. Part of the problem is the EZYlock's left hand thread. It is counterintuitive. I put a piece of Scotch tape on the top of the Tormek on the grinding wheel side. I drew a black marker arrow in the direction the grinding wheel would be pushed to remove it. (Later I learned that the EZYlock nut has loosen and tighten arrows. I still like the tape and arrow idea.)
Make sure the EZYlock threads are clean.
Also, The wheel will snug itself properly when the motor is turned on. There is no need to tighten it separately. I think overtightening may be one of the gremlins.
Other thoughts? Please post them.
Ken
ps If you insist on living in the Yukon, 2000 miles from the nearest Tormek dealer, make sure you have a good dog team. :)
Just happened to me and mine is brand new!
I've only sharpened a couple things with it
Reason I found out it was seized was I wanted to leave the stone off when I wasn't using it
so it wouldn't get corrosion in it.Stones only been on for four days!
Not a good way to start a relationship
Terry
Here is my reply from support:
Hello Ken.
We do not have a clear answer to why this sometimes happen. Stainless steel is a very difficult material prone to galling.
If there is minor defect or sharp edges or debris it can cause galling.
Also overtightening can be a factor. Some users just put the ezy-lock washer on just a little bit and the turn on the machine and let the stone rotate at full speed to lock. This can cause overtightening and make it difficult to get it loose. The ezy-lock should be tightened by hand all the way in and then let the machine do the rest.
Make sure the threads is smooth and free from dirt and defects.
A little bit of grease can help, do not forget the washer on the inside of the stone. It is important that the washer can move/rotate. If the inner washer is stuck on the shaft it will hold on to the stone and make it difficult to turn the stone to loosen it. Remember that grease do attract dirt, if you feel grittiness, clean the threads and re grease.
I consider this a good reply. I think we have not arrived at the definitive solution, although I do believe we are getting closer. I hope support is still investigating this. As an interested group, I also hope we of the forum will continue trying to solve this riddle.
We have five rubbing surfaces to consider: 1) The shaft collar and the inside surface of the spacer washer. 2) The outside of the spacer washer and the inside face of the grinding wheel. 3) The outside face of the grinding wheel and the inside face of the EZYlock. 4) The unthreaded part of the shaft. 5) The threads, factoring in both the male threads on the shaft and the female threads of the EZYlock.
Would making the flat surfaces smoother lessen the chances of seizing?
Would buffing the threads help?
Would hand turning up to (but not beyond) first contact help?
Would regularly cleaning the threads with a plastic bottle brush help?
There may be other possibilities. I would like together to solve this problem.
Ken
Quote from: Jan on October 15, 2016, 11:42:26 PM
Rem, give it a little bit time, the morning is wiser than evening. Lubricate it well. Jan
I am not familiar with that saying, it must be one native to your country. However, I do not agree with it and wonder if you made a mistake when you typed it. It seems to me that the evening would be the wiser as you would have had all day to think the issue through. In the morning it would be without the benefit of thinking about it all day.
Jeff,
The equivalent US saying would, "I'll have to sleep on it." Actually, I prefer Jan's version. The same way that "Bob's your uncle" makes me think of our friend, Rob, "The morning is wiser than the evening" will make me think of our friend, Jan, a pleasant thought.
Ken
Quote from: jeffs55 on January 31, 2019, 11:36:18 AM
Quote from: Jan on October 15, 2016, 11:42:26 PM
Rem, give it a little bit time, the morning is wiser than evening. Lubricate it well. Jan
I am not familiar with that saying, it must be one native to your country. However, I do not agree with it and wonder if you made a mistake when you typed it. It seems to me that the evening would be the wiser as you would have had all day to think the issue through. In the morning it would be without the benefit of thinking about it all day.
Quote from: Ken S on January 31, 2019, 01:53:48 PM
Jeff,
The equivalent US saying would, "I'll have to sleep on it." Actually, I prefer Jan's version. The same way that "Bob's your uncle" makes me think of our friend, Rob, "The morning is wiser than the evening" will make me think of our friend, Jan, a pleasant thought.
Ken
(https://forum.tormek.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3168.0;attach=3017)
;)
"Also overtightening can be a factor. Some users just put the ezy-lock washer on just a little bit and the turn on the machine and let the stone rotate at full speed to lock. This can cause overtightening and make it difficult to get it loose. The ezy-lock should be tightened by hand all the way in and then let the machine do the rest."
I have noticed this phenomenon on a gas powered weed eater when replacing the cutter string. If I tighten the spool nut tight by hand it requires a pair of large pliers to loosen the next time I have to remove it. If I hand tighten to just a little snug the inertia of the machine will finish the job. So I am saying to hand tighten to just snug and leave it alone, do not use any tools and do not bare down on it. Just snug it up. Let the running machine do the rest of the tightening. Tormek is saying "just a little bit", I am saying just a little more than that.
Quote from: jeffs55 on January 31, 2019, 07:10:14 PM
"Also overtightening can be a factor. Some users just put the ezy-lock washer on just a little bit and the turn on the machine and let the stone rotate at full speed to lock. This can cause overtightening and make it difficult to get it loose. The ezy-lock should be tightened by hand all the way in and then let the machine do the rest."
I have noticed this phenomenon on a gas powered weed eater when replacing the cutter string. If I tighten the spool nut tight by hand it requires a pair of large pliers to loosen the next time I have to remove it. If I hand tighten to just a little snug the inertia of the machine will finish the job. So I am saying to hand tighten to just snug and leave it alone, do not use any tools and do not bare down on it. Just snug it up. Let the running machine do the rest of the tightening. Tormek is saying "just a little bit", I am saying just a little more than that.
The way I read it... Tormek said the same thing you did...
don't tighten it "just a little bit"... maybe with your example confirming that... we're on to a reason here? ???