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In the Shop => General Tormek Questions => Topic started by: Johan T on March 14, 2024, 11:52:12 PM

Title: Just bought a Tormek 2000 and question regarding motor
Post by: Johan T on March 14, 2024, 11:52:12 PM
Hi!

New to the forum, and soon owner of a used Tormek 2000
I bought online. Good price, but while inspecting the pictures thoroughly I suspect the motor has been changed.

It says it's a Tyco W 100 (at 240V), while reviews state its 200 Watts.

Does this look alright, or should I try to cancel the order?

Kind regards
Johan
Title: Re: Just bought a Tormek 2000 and question regarding motor
Post by: Ken S on March 15, 2024, 12:08:34 AM
Johan,

My first question would be which electric power your country has. Thelabel on this motor looks like it says 240 volts, 50 hertz. That is the standard electric power for Europe. (For the US and Canada, it is 110 volts, 60 hertz. If the label does not match your national power, the answer is a defnite no for purchase.

You should contact Tormek support (support@tormek.se). Support works Monday through Friday. Unless you have a long enough time window to cancel, I would recommend that you cancel the sale.

Ken
Title: Re: Just bought a Tormek 2000 and question regarding motor
Post by: John Hancock Sr on March 15, 2024, 05:33:50 AM
If you look here

https://www.sharpeningsupplies.com/115V-Motor-for-T-8-Including-Bushings-and-Spring-P2154C370.aspx

you will see that the Tormek motor is indeed 100W. That is a differently branded motor but the label looks similar. Also that is a Crompton motor which did merge with Tyco and they do make reasonable quality motors. It may very well be that they supplied motors for Tormek at one stage.

If in doubt do contact support as Ken says but if it were me I would really not be bothered considering it is the correct power and a Crompton motor.
Title: Re: Just bought a Tormek 2000 and question regarding motor
Post by: Ken S on March 15, 2024, 03:42:28 PM
John,
Admittedly, I have no expertise in motors. Was the machine and motor used in the seller's country before being sold?
Ken
Title: Re: Just bought a Tormek 2000 and question regarding motor
Post by: Johan T on March 17, 2024, 08:36:54 PM
Thanks for the swift replies!

I'm in holy Tormek land (Sweden) so the 240 volts is correct here. I have a day to test it out after I receive it, so I will mail Tormek just to have it clarified.

I believe it is a sales trick, that states 200W effect in, but the motor runs at 100W.

Title: Re: Just bought a Tormek 2000 and question regarding motor
Post by: HaioPaio on March 17, 2024, 09:28:59 PM
This is not a sales trick. The power at the motor label ist the mechanical power, the motor can deliver.
The Power from the T8 Specs ist the maximum electrical power consumption the machine will draw from mains.
The ration of power consumption to delivered mechanical power is called energy efficiency.
The motor used in a T8 is a so called capacitor motor and it is normal for motors in that power range to have efficiencies between 50% and 60%.
During startup, the motor draws more current and the manufacturer shows correctly a power consumption of 200W in the T8 specs.
I hope that helps to understand the miracle.