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#1
Well this has been a bit of a rollercoaster so far.
And yes, I did just move my machine to a more dedicated spot :)

I did some testing as suggested and my findings are somewhat surprising.

The measurements were taken from the top of the USB and down to the piece of solid bar steel. With both locking screws tightened.
- repeated test measurements with no altering of the USB, showed repeatability to within 0,05mm accuracy.


Results:

Pressing down on the threaded bar when locking it in, showed a max deviation of 0,8mm. (I didn't touch the nut, although I wrote it like that in my notes on my phone, it was done like in the Tormek manual/handbook)
Placing the USB freely before locking it in without touching it further, showed a max deviation of 0,15mm.
Using the sleeve and applying downwards pressure and spin to only the sleeve itself, while locking in the USB, showed a max deviation of 0,2mm.

I would say that 0,8mm deviation is too much for my liking, this corresponds with my observations truing the stone with the TT-50, where I noticed that from one pass to another, suddenly I would only be removing material from about half the stone, when taking away material in ½ increments of the micro adjust.
But I will also admit, that it isn't as bad as I thought it would be and I'm nowhere near experienced enough to really tell how much of an impact it might have on the final results.

Using the sleeve I made, I do also get the USB to be more square to the wheel, this is clearly visible when holding a square to the stone and USB.
If we say that 83,2 (rough average of test #3) is truly square, you could potentially get the USB locked in at 84,2 (test result 4 in test #1) which would put the USB 1mm out of square at the end of the bar.
- I guess this doesn't really matter, since you would be truing the stone to the USB, but then the pesky deviation of 0,8mm comes into play.

Conclusion:
Make a sleeve or stop touching the universal support bar, when locking it in?  :o

#2
Thank you Ken S.

Quote from: Ken S on April 01, 2021, 05:21:33 AM
I am somewhat puzzled by your looseness problem with the universal support bar. Tormek has incorporated their patented Torlock into the sleeves which guide and hold the support bar. The holes are not round. Like the platform jig, the  holes have a wedging action which grasps the support bar very tightly with minimal pressure. In your vimeo, I noticed you had the sleeve screws loose. Tightening them should solve your problem.

My sleeves seem very round.


And this is the wedge profile on my SVX-150 scissor platform.



Do I have a bad model? Since obviously I wouldn't have the same issue with looseness, if the sleeves on my T8 were profiled like on the platform jig.
#3
Hey I'm a new T8 user and new to the forum.

I've been having a hard time feeling precise with my brand new and expensive machine, I already made my own FVB, after watching videos from Knife Grinders on YouTube.

That yielded much better results, from simply being able to hone at a guided angle.

However I found to much inconsistency in mounting and adjusting the universal support bar, simply pressing down over the adjustment knob doesn't really do the trick for me.

So I made a stainless sleeve that fits very snuck, making it easy to square up the universal support bar.

https://vimeo.com/531154090