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In the Shop => Hand Tool Woodworking => Topic started by: tooljunkie on January 26, 2011, 06:03:19 PM

Title: Cap Iron Plane Screwdriver
Post by: tooljunkie on January 26, 2011, 06:03:19 PM
Hello every one

Here is a product you may be interested in picking.
It is a Cap Iron Plane Screwdriver.

A regular screwdriver just doesn't work well on cap iron screws. A narrow blade can mar the cap-screw slot, and there's always the risk that the screwdriver tip will slip out of the slot altogether.
We designed this screwdriver to make it both safe and easy to remove, replace or adjust cap irons.

It has a turned brass collar surrounding the tip to capture the head of a cap iron screw up to 21/32" in diameter, and a generous bubinga knob for a comfortable, secure grip.

The slot-style tip is durable alloy steel. Not only for VeritasĀ® planes, it fits all standard cap iron screws on current and vintage Record and Stanley planes as well as others based on them.

A convenient tool for safely loosening or tightening stubborn cap iron screws.

http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=60111&cat=1,230,41182 (http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=60111&cat=1,230,41182)

Dan
Title: Re: Cap Iron Plane Screwdriver
Post by: Ken S on January 27, 2011, 12:25:06 AM
Dan,

This has been on my "want to buy" list for some time.  It looks like a very useful and well designed tool.  In fact, it looks more practical than its Lie-Nielsen equivalent.

Just curious, but, "We designed this screwdriver"; did you work on the design team?  If so, good job.

Thanks for a useful post.

Ken

Title: Re: Cap Iron Plane Screwdriver
Post by: tooljunkie on January 27, 2011, 06:27:09 AM
No not me.

I wish I did!

The text was the description from Lee Valley.

I did buy it & it works amazingly good.
Title: Re: Cap Iron Plane Screwdriver
Post by: Ken S on January 27, 2011, 11:26:28 AM
Dan,

Don't forget the important part you (and all of us) play in the chain.  All the brilliant engineering and precision machining would come to naught if not for the guy with the plastic wallet!

Actually, I have been a Lee Valley customer for many years.  Other than the fact that they don't sell Tormek, they are very nice innovative people to deal with.  Leonard Lee's sharpening dvd is now a little dated, but the good dry humor is as good as ever.  Their small plough plane is a delight to use.

Ken
Title: Re: Cap Iron Plane Screwdriver
Post by: glh17 on January 27, 2011, 03:20:19 PM
Thanks for the post.  I get a Lee-Valley newsletter (email), but don't remember seeing that screwdriver.  Good idea.  I suspect more than just a few people have stabbed their palms while trying to remove the cap iron screw with a standard screwdriver.  I try to follow Jim Kingshott's recommendation of placing the iron on a flat surface, but sometimes that's just not handy.
Title: Re: Cap Iron Plane Screwdriver
Post by: Ken S on February 08, 2011, 02:20:34 AM
Dan,

Do you happen to know if this screwdriver might also fit the tightening screw on the Eclipse (and clones) side clamping honing jigs?

Ken
Title: Re: Cap Iron Plane Screwdriver
Post by: tooljunkie on February 08, 2011, 02:51:16 AM
Quote from: Ken S on February 08, 2011, 02:20:34 AM
Dan,

Do you happen to know if this screwdriver might also fit the tightening screw on the Eclipse (and clones) side clamping honing jigs?

Ken

The inside ring diameter that sits over the screw head is
.658 or 21\32 or 16.70mm

The screw from my plane is
.630 or 16mm

By looking at your Eclipse (and clones) side clamping honing jigs it may work perfectly.
But you can check with the measurements to see.



http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=60111&cat=1,230,41182 (http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=60111&cat=1,230,41182)
It has a turned brass collar surrounding the tip to capture the head of a cap iron screw up to 21/32" in diameter, and a generous bubinga knob for a comfortable, secure grip

Hope this helps you.

Dan
Title: Re: Cap Iron Plane Screwdriver
Post by: Ken S on February 08, 2011, 11:53:32 AM
Thanks, Dan.  I think it will work.  The pal design certainly puts the torque axis much closer to the screw head.  I think it would be more controllable, too.  It's on my short wish list for the next time L-V has a free shipping promotion.

Ken
Title: Re: Cap Iron Plane Screwdriver
Post by: tooljunkie on February 08, 2011, 06:02:09 PM
Yes it is much more controllable than a screwdriver.

I wish they had more free shipping events.
Title: Re: Cap Iron Plane Screwdriver
Post by: Ken S on February 08, 2011, 06:10:30 PM
Steve and Dan,

Congrats on your second stars.  (I hope Jeff ordered enough stars.)

Ken
Title: Re: Cap Iron Plane Screwdriver
Post by: tooljunkie on February 08, 2011, 06:31:21 PM
Thanks
Can we trade in the stars for Tormek Accessories  ::)
Title: Re: Cap Iron Plane Screwdriver
Post by: Ken S on March 20, 2011, 02:57:31 PM
Dan,

Your good idea + Lee valley free shipping through 3-28 = new cap iron screwdriver for me.

thanks.

Ken
Title: Re: Cap Iron Plane Screwdriver
Post by: Steve Brown on March 20, 2011, 04:18:28 PM
Ken S,
Oh! My Stars. Thanks for noticing. What's next? Maybe in ten years or so we'll be up there with Jeff.
Steve
Title: Re: Cap Iron Plane Screwdriver
Post by: grizzz66 on March 20, 2011, 07:17:09 PM
hi guys ,  the cap iron itself is designed to remove the screw holding the chip breaker to the blade, no special screwdrivers needed  ;)  with that said, i do really like lee valley and have been ordering from them for many years ...... i just figured i would post this so you can save your money for other lee valley stuff  ;D
Title: Re: Cap Iron Plane Screwdriver
Post by: tooljunkie on March 21, 2011, 04:28:03 PM
Got to love free shipping!
Now they need to have a points system based on money spent at leeValley to go into store credit.
Title: Re: Cap Iron Plane Screwdriver
Post by: Ken S on March 21, 2011, 07:22:23 PM
Thanks for the tip, grizzz.

My order was already in pixelland.

Ken
Title: Re: Cap Iron Plane Screwdriver
Post by: Ken S on March 24, 2011, 02:50:44 PM
Dan,

The Plane Cap Screwdriver arrived yesterday.  What a quality tool; it's well made and beautifully finished.

It fits my plane screws perfectly.  It also fits the screw on the eclipse jig nicely.  It's not a perfect fit, but very functional.

Thanks for the idea.

Ken
Title: Re: Cap Iron Plane Screwdriver
Post by: tooljunkie on March 24, 2011, 04:40:14 PM
Your welcome Ken

Yes it is very well made & finished.
I keep mine in the bubble package it came with in the drawer with my planes so it does not get scratched.

Glad it works with your eclipse jig
Title: Re: Cap Iron Plane Screwdriver
Post by: Ken S on March 25, 2011, 03:18:00 AM
Dan,

Funny that you keep your plane Cap Screwdriver in the bubble wrap; so do I.  The wood finishing is so nice.  I like the subtle turned circular line.  It looks like the finish was applied on the lathe, and maybe burnished with chips.  I have it sitting next to my 1909 Bedrock 604 Smoothing Plane.  I bought it from the original owner almost forty years ago.  If planes could talk......this one has seen service in Florida during the "boom" and Goodyear Aerospace during WWII.

Ken
Title: Re: Cap Iron Plane Screwdriver
Post by: tooljunkie on March 25, 2011, 03:24:44 AM
Nice
1909 That would have some stories.
What shape is it in?
Title: Re: Cap Iron Plane Screwdriver
Post by: Ken S on March 25, 2011, 10:04:06 AM
Two careful owners; it's in nice shape.
Title: Re: Cap Iron Plane Screwdriver
Post by: tooljunkie on March 25, 2011, 04:35:42 PM
My planes are Stanley/Bailey the oldest was made in 1932
Title: Re: Cap Iron Plane Screwdriver
Post by: tooljunkie on March 25, 2011, 04:39:49 PM
I will be picking up the TormekĀ® Hand-Tool Kit today but may not be able to play with it (or should I say use it) untill aprill 4th on my birthday.  ;D  ::)
Title: Re: Cap Iron Plane Screwdriver
Post by: grizzz66 on April 04, 2011, 01:04:55 AM
hi all ,

  that cap iron trick works with the stanley/baileys/bedrocks....i don't know if it works with LV planes....i probably shoulda thought of that before  ::)
Title: Re: Cap Iron Plane Screwdriver
Post by: Ken S on April 05, 2011, 02:41:09 AM
grizzz,

I have actually used the cap iron trick.  It does work.  However, I think the Lee Valley tool gives more control.  It also fits very well.

Ken
Title: Re: Cap Iron Plane Screwdriver
Post by: Ken S on April 05, 2011, 02:44:35 AM
Dan,

I inherited a Bailey (number 4) of about your vintage from my grandfather.  It's a well made plane.  I wouldn't trade it for a new one.  I like using old tools. They may have retained some of the experience of some of the old craftsmen who have used them, as well as some nice patina.

Ken
Title: Re: Cap Iron Plane Screwdriver
Post by: tooljunkie on April 05, 2011, 08:17:36 PM
Yes I agree Ken
Title: Re: Cap Iron Plane Screwdriver
Post by: Ken S on April 08, 2011, 03:00:44 PM
Dan (and forum),

I have just ordered a copy of Ernie Conover's new plane book and DVD.  Ernie is an excellent teacher and an old hand at plane restoration "tuning".  His handplane class is most informative.  I'll post an update on the book and DVD after I study them.

Ken