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I deburr on a rockhard feltwheel with 1-2 degrees more then i grind. I do that after my 1000 CBN wheel. After that a few strokes on the lether in my grindig angle and all fine.
If this is to fine 4 me i do that after my 400 cbn, mostly at cheaper knifes, this i dont grind finer as 400.
My paperwheels with 5 micron and 0,5 micron i use only at realy high end knifes.
Cheers Hanns

Thats easy to answer Ken.......
Only another way to measure, at the end if u measure correct u get the same Toolbarhight.
So what 

Cheers Hanns

Hello, Ken,
I can well imagine.
It would mean the end of all jigs with 0.5 and 1 mm milled away material.
If anybody has an idea to realize this, he should tell me.
I think I am in a dead end at the moment.
We can then check the feasibility.
I am open for everything that could help me in the implementation.

cheers Hanns

Just to be on the safe side, of course a single laser is sufficient for such a setup. I mounted the second one for demonstration purposes only to show that the setup works. When i set up like this i grind several similar knives in a few minutes always with the same angle because i can always adjust the jig length on the laser.

Cheers Hanns

The diffrent angles at using for example my software depends on the construction of the jig.
Knifes up to 3 mm thicknes are no problem. But if u have a thicker knife u have to modify ur clamp.
I am working on a idea to construct a clamp that closes from both sides similiar.
If i can find a way to do that all angleproblems done.
Cheers Hanns

do you go to the weekly market or to the farmers market to sharpen the knives of the people. or do you have a company that sharpens knives.
how you can speed up your sharpening. with a few little tricks and the right tools it should be possible without any problems.
i have made a short video about this. watch it if you like. english subtitles are included. not perfect but you will understand what i mean.
cheers Hanns


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iEDJnzL_sE

That may be Vadim. I'm sure that's reflected in the price. A 3cm thick rockhard here costs a little over 100 € and that is not cheap. But the advantage is obvious. Your cutting edge is not rounded by sinking into the felt. Of course a wider rest is better than a narrow one, but with a little practice you can handle it well, because, as you always say, you shouldn't exert pressure on the felt wheel. And finally I learned everything I know from you.

...snip...I know the owner of Vetako and will send him a Mail and ask to test fedex

cheers Hanns

Whatever...  I've been in touch with Vetako, which is how I learned of the reason for not receiving my shipment.  I doubt it will do me much good if they test FedEx and find that it works as I doubt they will ship a second unit without the first being returned first.

I've given up on them. 

Rick

@Rick,
i stay in contact with the owner of Vetako.
I go on a Business trip to Prag at 23th this month.
My Plan is to buy maybe 15-20 Goniometers from him and sell this in my shop later.
I own one at myself and i think this is the best u can get because of the Knife holding magnet.
you just put the knife in and the measurement is ready without long alignment and shaking.
very simple.

next days i make a short video from each of my tools and how to use.
think this Goniometer will be one of this videos.

cheers Hanns

Hanns,
The moderator does not have a problem with posting a link, as long as the forum does not become the marketing platform and the product does not directly compete with a Tormek product.
Ken

Hi Ken,
because off this i hold back to write here the whole time
i dont want to make promotion here but i am always open to answer questions.

i do almost same with the wheels like Vadim and a few different tools that can make life easier with tormek.

cheers Hanns

i don't know if I can use this like this.
if not, the moderator can delete the contributor

www.schleifjunkies.de

the page is still in construction but I have tried to translate the most important things into English, French and Italian.
if there's any excitement to this, I'd like to write something to you.

cheers Hanns

I'm using a T8 with the standard stone and a half speed 8 inch grinder with 2 ten inch slotted paper wheels. Every time I get a knife really nice and sharp (105-150) on a BESS tester and then get the idea to finish up with a rock hard felt wheel used on the Tormek at slow speed with 1micron diamond spray my edge goes south really bad.  (280) BESS.
So I'm done with that thing forever.  Done finished.
I can bring the numbers back with the paper wheels. Anyone have an idea why the felt wheel dulls the edge? I like to know if possible what happens, even if I'll never use it again. I've tried exact angle and higher and lower.  Btw I use the knife grinders software with angle supports on the paper wheels and the frontal vertical base for the felt.
To add insult to injury the felt polished a "tiger stripe" into the mirror finish which the paper polished back out.

you give up too easily
the rockhard felt wheel with a specific weight of 90 (i have seen offers here that are called rock hard but have only 70 specific weight, which is maximum hard) has the excellent property to deburr your knife perfectly. just set 1 degree more grinding angle than you used to grind on japan stone. go over your felt wheel with 1 micron diamond spray (no paste) without pressure 3-4 times in each direction. after each pull, change from front to back. then pull over the leather with your original angle as normal, also 3-4 times in each direction. it is very important to always sharpen in one direction only, never pull back and forth. with a good middle class knife with HRC of approx. 56-58 you will have razor sharp results. My Bess values for such knives are always under 100. even without the use of the paper wheels
cheers Hanns

This is the Note on german DHL site:

Canada:
It is generally possible to send items to Canada (i.e. letters, packages, merchandise mail and parcels).
Due to the currently very limited transport capacities available, we will ship parcels to Canada by sea freight until further notice. We do not recommend sending parcels as "Premium" and would like to point out that significant delays in transit time must be expected.

I found the same thing with Vetako. I wanted (and was ready with cash in hand) to order their Master+ Goniometer, but despite trying to contact them via email, telephone, and Facebook Messages - for every four or five communications I sent to them, I was lucky if I received one email back indicating whether the item was in stock, and/or what the shipping charges and arrangements would be to get the item to Canada. In the end they couldn't answer any of my questions.
I finally gave up.
I concluded that they're simply not at all set up to ship to North America, and actually have zero answers to any questions related to shipping to North America.

It's too bad, as it looks like incredibly well engineered equipment ... so nice that I may try again at some point, but not until I read of some successful North American Vetako customers.

Roger maybe i have 20 or so in my shop in the future so u can buy there. I answer all the time at the same day
cheers Hanns

I have on order also one of the LASER GONIOMETER MASTERs, but it seems to be held up indefinitely in shipping.  Vetako reports that due to COVID-19 things are not making it out of the EU.  It's been a month or more and there is no indication as tracking does not yield any useful information. I've given up on it at this point. 

Rick

Hi Rick,
at thze moment for example DHL dont send Packages to
USA
Kanada
Australia
Newzeeland

all because of covid-19

i have also orders here from customers from Kanada and Newzeeland. NO WAY
but we will test to send by FEDEX, they offer Transportaition anyways.
I know the owner of Vetako and will send him a Mail and ask to test fedex

cheers Hanns

after having worked with the Catra for a long time, but always looking for a better solution, because holding the knife in the device was always too wobbly for me, i kept looking around and found the perfect device for me.
this goniometer has a magnet that holds the knife and I can get up to 5,5cm wide knives in. here is the link for all who are interested:

click on LASER GONIOMETER MASTER

https://sharpeningtool.eu/de/catalog/accessories#
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLgQAuZiY6o&feature=emb_logo

cheers Hanns