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#21
General Tormek Questions / Re: VICTORY KNIVES NEW ZEALAND
Last post by Ken S - April 28, 2024, 09:07:44 PM
Dan,

I did an online srarch on how hard are Victory knives:

"People also ask
What steel does Victory knives use?
Victory contines to thrive by maintaining the highest standards in manufacture and materials, building on its reputation for unsurpassed quality. The stainless steel blade is made from German Krup steel, hardened to a hardness of 54-55 HRC.
https://www.huntgathergrow.com.au › ...
Victory Knives - Hunt Gather Grow"

I am no metalurgist, however, most kitchen knives seem to be in the 58 to 60 range. That would indicate to me that the steel in Victory knives is softer than typical and better suited to non superabrasive knives, meaning not CBN or diamond wheels.

I consider the Tormek online classes the most reliable source on Tormek. A frequent question in several of the classes is asking for a recommended wheel of choice for knives and chisels. The Tormek instructors have access to any of the Tormek wheels. They consistently recommend the SG-250.

I am also aware of extensive direct and indirect marketing of CBN wheels. CBN and diamond wheels have their place with the Tormek, but not especially with kitchen knives. I would suggest sorting your knives to be sorted. Use the SG-250 for the knives with softer steel. Make sure your SG-250 is well tuned with the TT-50 and stone grader, Then, switch to your superabrasive wheel for the knives with harder steel.

Ken
#22
General Tormek Questions / Re: VICTORY KNIVES NEW ZEALAND
Last post by dankeelz - April 28, 2024, 01:55:27 AM
Thanks for your comment. I will just go back to using my SG wheels and try that. I thought someone would be able to help. Cheers regards
Dan
#24
General Tormek Questions / Re: VICTORY KNIVES NEW ZEALAND
Last post by cbwx34 - April 27, 2024, 04:54:13 PM
Quote from: dankeelz on April 27, 2024, 02:02:47 AMHi, I sharpen ALOT of 'VICTORY' brand fish filleting knives made in New Zealand. Mostly with thin 25cm blades. I was having fair results with the standard SG wheel, however since changing over to CBN wheels I am having trouble raising a bur. The steel is quite hard, or so it seems. Does anybody have any thoughts on maybe changing my technique or any other suggestions? The new CBN wheels work great on all the other knives I do for people. I am far from being an expert or a beginner,[ been sharpening for nearly 3 years now] so my technique is pretty well sorted.
 Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Dan, Norfolk Island, South Pacific

I think it may be the opposite of "quite hard"... their Catalogue says "The stainless steel blade hardness is 54-55 HRC".  CBN wheels reportedly don't work well on softer steels.  For example:

Quote from: https://info.eaglesuperabrasives.com/blog/why-cbn-is-the-superior-choice-for-grinding-steelLimited Application: While excellent for hard materials, CBN may not be the best choice for softer materials, where conventional abrasives might suffice.

(It's also mentioned on Rich Colvin's website.)


#25
General Tormek Questions / Re: Where should I order T-8 B...
Last post by cbwx34 - April 27, 2024, 04:46:07 PM
Quote from: BaltoT on April 26, 2024, 04:32:24 PMI decided to get T-8 black.

Please recommend online store (or a local store around Raleigh NC), where I should order it. I know the price is everywhere the same, but I hope you have preferred stores where maybe I can get better support, etc. I looked at Amazon and there are two sellers: Hartville hardware and Yellowhammer tool works.
...

It looks like you have a local Woodcraft store and another one called Rockler... you might check there.
#26
General Tormek Questions / Re: Where should I order T-8 B...
Last post by GeoBoy - April 27, 2024, 02:57:47 PM
I purchased my T7 and accessories from Advanced Machinery, nice people. www.advmachinery.com
#27
General Tormek Questions / Re: Where should I order T-8 B...
Last post by TormekTitan - April 27, 2024, 06:57:37 AM
I got mine recently from Hartville Hardware. Fast shipping and secure packaging.
#28
General Tormek Questions / VICTORY KNIVES NEW ZEALAND
Last post by dankeelz - April 27, 2024, 02:02:47 AM
Hi, I sharpen ALOT of 'VICTORY' brand fish filleting knives made in New Zealand. Mostly with thin 25cm blades. I was having fair results with the standard SG wheel, however since changing over to CBN wheels I am having trouble raising a bur. The steel is quite hard, or so it seems. Does anybody have any thoughts on maybe changing my technique or any other suggestions? The new CBN wheels work great on all the other knives I do for people. I am far from being an expert or a beginner,[ been sharpening for nearly 3 years now] so my technique is pretty well sorted.
 Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Dan, Norfolk Island, South Pacific
#29
General Tormek Questions / Re: Where should I order T-8 B...
Last post by Ken S - April 26, 2024, 06:13:01 PM
Here is a list of dealers in North Carolina:

https://tormek.com/en/support/where-to-buy/woodworking--crafts

One is listed in Raleigh. I Living in Ohio, I have no personal experience good or bad with any of them.
I do have long, positive experience (over fifty years) with Hartville Hardware and more recent positive experience with Sharpening Supplies. My gut feeling is that any of the listed dealers should treat you right.

You will need the SE-77 for chisels and plane blades; a
KJ-45 for almost all kitchen knives; and the axe jig.

I would recommend staying with just the DF-250 grinding wheel at the start.

I recommend getting a small square. A turkey baster, coffee filter and plastic jar will help recover the ACC.

Be sure to study the Tormek online classes. They are an xcellent learning resource.

Keep us posted.

Ken
#30
General Tormek Questions / Where should I order T-8 Black...
Last post by BaltoT - April 26, 2024, 04:32:24 PM
I decided to get T-8 black.

Please recommend online store (or a local store around Raleigh NC), where I should order it. I know the price is everywhere the same, but I hope you have preferred stores where maybe I can get better support, etc. I looked at Amazon and there are two sellers: Hartville hardware and Yellowhammer tool works.

Also, what wheels/accessories/kits should I order with T-8 black. I will be using it for:
- chisels, including wide timber frame chisels and slicks
- planer blades
- knives (kitchen, etc)
- axes
I see the black t-8 comes with DF-250 diamond wheel. Do I even need another wheel?