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In the Shop => General Tormek Questions => Topic started by: Sharpco on April 15, 2021, 11:52:22 AM

Title: Tormek Square
Post by: Sharpco on April 15, 2021, 11:52:22 AM
I wanted to buy it as soon as I saw it. Where can I buy it?
Title: Re: Tormek Square
Post by: Stickan on April 15, 2021, 08:46:35 PM
Hi,
It's a product with very limited production and currently not for sale.

Best,
Stig
Title: Re: Tormek Square
Post by: Sharpco on April 16, 2021, 01:58:44 AM
Quote from: Stickan on April 15, 2021, 08:46:35 PM
Hi,
It's a product with very limited production and currently not for sale.

Best,
Stig

Thank you Stig.

I hope Tormek makes it again.
Title: Re: Tormek Square
Post by: Ken S on April 16, 2021, 01:36:31 PM
Sharpco,

This seems like an ideal use of a 3D printer for a Tormek accessory. It is a very simple tool, essentially just two rectangular pieces attached at a right angle. designing it with a 3D program should be a fast, easy project.
It is also small. Unlike other 3D projects I have seen, it can be made with smaller printers designed for home use. Being small, it would not take long to print or require much filament. Being plastic, it will not rust or corrode.

I would suggest a higher fill percentage. Once you are satisfied with it, I would make up several. Don't use Tormek's copyrighted logo. (Use your one business name; it's good advertising.)

Ken
Title: Re: Tormek Square
Post by: Sharpco on April 16, 2021, 01:40:33 PM
Quote from: Ken S on April 16, 2021, 01:36:31 PM
Sharpco,

This seems like an ideal use of a 3D printer for a Tormek accessory. It is a very simple tool, essentially just two rectangular pieces attached at a right angle. designing it with a 3D program should be a fast, easy project.
It is also small. Unlike other 3D projects I have seen, it can be made with smaller printers designed for home use. Being small, it would not take long to print or require much filament. Being plastic, it will not rust or corrode.

I would suggest a higher fill percentage. Once you are satisfied with it, I would make up several. Don't use Tormek's copyrighted logo. (Use your one business name; it's good advertising.)

Ken

Ken.

That logo is key point :)
Title: Re: Tormek Square
Post by: Rick_B on April 16, 2021, 01:57:39 PM
OK - I'll bite.  What the heck is it used for and why the notches on one side

Rick
Title: Re: Tormek Square
Post by: Ken S on April 16, 2021, 03:07:50 PM
Rick,

One purpose of the small square is to establish a square (90°) line on the grinding wheel with a pencil of fine point marker. The first time I sharpened a turning skew chisel, I foolishly assumed that the skew angle matched the recommended Tormek setting. I continued grinding, which required a lot of time and work.
Matching a square line on the grinding wheel would have changed reshaping to sharpening.

The square can also be used to check chisels and plane blades.

The notches are used to check bevel angles.

Sharpco, I would not be surprised if Tormek eventually included the square in the product line up.

Ken
Title: Re: Tormek Square
Post by: Elden on April 16, 2021, 10:03:01 PM
I will bite as well, Rick.

The use of the square as shown, isn't it being assumed that the USB is perpendicular to the side of the grinding wheel?
Title: Re: Tormek Square
Post by: WimSpi on April 17, 2021, 11:32:22 PM
Is this something like that?  (the smallest one)

https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/32975871450.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4d5jN4FO

Title: Re: Tormek Square
Post by: Ken S on April 18, 2021, 03:26:59 PM
Wim,

These look very similar. The inside length of the legs is more important for this than the outer length. If you are marking a square line across your grinding wheel, the inner length should be 50mm or slightly longer. The middle size seems the best choice to me.

I like that the base can be detached.I think it might be easier to use with the base removed.

Keep us posted.

Ken
Title: Re: Tormek Square
Post by: WimSpi on April 18, 2021, 08:42:44 PM
It is not easy to find a square that you can use on a round stone. The easiest way to do this is to lay the stone flat on a table and place a square against the table and the stone. Then you can use any accurate (!) square, to get an exact 90 degree line on the surface of the stone.
Title: Re: Tormek Square
Post by: capt rich on June 25, 2021, 12:28:08 AM
 Square  2 1/2 x 2 1/2 with angles cut on the out side to check angles.
Title: Re: Tormek Square
Post by: Ken S on June 26, 2021, 10:16:48 PM
Quote from: Sharpco on April 16, 2021, 01:40:33 PM
Quote from: Ken S on April 16, 2021, 01:36:31 PM
Sharpco,

This seems like an ideal use of a 3D printer for a Tormek accessory. It is a very simple tool, essentially just two rectangular pieces attached at a right angle. designing it with a 3D program should be a fast, easy project.
It is also small. Unlike other 3D projects I have seen, it can be made with smaller printers designed for home use. Being small, it would not take long to print or require much filament. Being plastic, it will not rust or corrode.

I would suggest a higher fill percentage. Once you are satisfied with it, I would make up several. Don't use Tormek's copyrighted logo. (Use your one business name; it's good advertising.)

Ken

Ken.

That logo is key point :)


Sharpco, old friend, you may think I am a pagan, however, neither the logo nor the angle slots are important to me. If a square is accurate and (preferably) doesn't rust, I am a happy camper. The Anglemaster has angle slots.

Ken
Title: Re: Tormek Square
Post by: Sharpco on June 26, 2021, 10:26:26 PM
Quote from: Ken S on June 26, 2021, 10:16:48 PM
Sharpco, old friend, you may think I am a pagan, however, neither the logo nor the angle slots are important to me. If a square is accurate and (preferably) doesn't rust, I am a happy camper. The Anglemaster has angle slots.

Ken

You're right :)
Title: Re: Tormek Square
Post by: RickKrung on June 27, 2021, 01:21:22 AM
I agree completely that the angle slots are not very important.  They are available on the AngleMaster, but I never use it. 

I also agree that a small square is very handy, but have found a 4" Starrett Combination Square to be the most useful and convenient.  Spendy to use a Starrett, but i have confidence in the accuracy.  It is just steel and cast iron, so can rust, but Im just careful about wiping it off and have not had a problem so far. 

I've found the adjustable function one of the more useful attributes, when working with chisels and plane blades in the square edge jig. 
Title: Re: Tormek Square
Post by: Ken S on June 27, 2021, 02:32:34 AM
Quote from: Sharpco on June 26, 2021, 10:26:26 PM
Quote from: Ken S on June 26, 2021, 10:16:48 PM
Sharpco, old friend, you may think I am a pagan, however, neither the logo nor the angle slots are important to me. If a square is accurate and (preferably) doesn't rust, I am a happy camper. The Anglemaster has angle slots.

Ken

You're right :)


Actually, we're both right........Would you buy a new Mercedes without the brand distinctive hood ornament?
:)

Ken