I have watched all seven of Steve's YouTube Videos and learned a great deal. Thank you Steve.
May we please have some more as they are like cool water to a thirsty soul.
I would love to see one on honing using the T7 please.
Having just bought the T7 my funds are too shy of buying the Sharpening services video right now but this will hopefully be in my Christmas stocking.
Many thanks
KR
Steve the Grinder.
I would like to strongly support Steve the Grinder. :)
Steve Bottorff videos are very educative and inspiring. His thread "Sharpening for a better burr" started in summer this year stimulated 146 replies and reached almost 1000 views http://forum.tormek.com/index.php?topic=2562.0 .
That speaks for itself.
Jan
Well said Jan. Thanks for the support.
Steve has clearly a life time of experience that could benefit us all greatly. I first learned to sharpen edge tools as a young boy in my Grandfather's woodshed. He was a Master Mariner twice a ships captain and the Chief harbour pilot for Dublin harbour for many years. He could fix, repair or build anything. He had one simple test for sharpness, can it pop the hairs off your arm and for ultimate sharp does it cut through silk.
I second that!!. More !!
I probably have more experience with Steve's video than anyone else on the forum, excepting Steve. Steve has produced an excellent and in depth training program. He has a wealth of practical experience and knowledge. However, I feel it is only fair to keep in mind that while many of us have (in Herman's words) a "sharpening hobby", Steve has had a sharpening business. He has borne the cost of producing his Sharpening School video. We have all been the benefactors of his very generous sharing of parts of that video at no cost to us.
I hope Steve will continue sharing his knowledge. Having had the pleasure of spending some one on one time with him, his grasp of sharpening is extensive. He is an asset to this forum. We have benefitted from his expertise. I feel we should appreciate his commitment by purchasing his Sharpening School package.
Ken
Yes Ken, I completely understand your point. :)
Persons in active sharpening business have to earn a livelihood. I myself find sharing parts of that video at no cost to us for a win-win situation. We can immediately benefit from selected aspects of Steve's expertise, and may be inspired to purchase the whole package. Steve on the other side, can acquire valuable feedback which is convertible in future product improvements.
In addition, there is the ethical aspect of generosity in sharing knowledge, which is intangible, but also in a certain way important. ;)
Jan
C'mon SteveBott, I would love to see how you hone at 3 oclock!
Quote from: Ken S on October 24, 2015, 05:30:37 PM
I feel it is only fair to keep in mind that while many of us have (in Herman's words) a "sharpening hobby", Steve has had a sharpening business. He has borne the cost of producing his Sharpening School video. We have all been the benefactors of his very generous sharing of parts of that video at no cost to us.
I hope Steve will continue sharing his knowledge. Having had the pleasure of spending some one on one time with him, his grasp of sharpening is extensive. He is an asset to this forum. We have benefitted from his expertise. I feel we should appreciate his commitment by purchasing his Sharpening School package.
Ken
I solidly and completely agree with Ken. I feel Steve has already gone "the extra mile" in releasing the footage he has. I would like to say a BIG thank you, Steve! From the actions I have seen from Steve, he is available to answer questions we ask. His website is wealth of information. Check it out if you haven't.
Have you ever asked Pepsi Cola for their recipe or for a video showing the ingredients used and the manufacturing process?
I feel Steve has and is generously sharing his knowledge here and elsewhere. His reactions to previous occurrences here on the forum have been exemplary.
It seems that all you "old timers" forget or choose not to see what this is all about
There is a need for more and mayby better videos.. if it is Steve og jobe, og Bill Gates that does em is not the point (i feel) BUT there is a need for more and better video examples and explanations.. So forget that someone said Steve and move on yeah!
Eldon,
Well stated.
Jimmy,
This old timer has not forgotten about the need for good video training. If you look back archived posts by some of the old timers and me, you will find that we have been asking for more and better training videos for quite some time. We continue to do so.Steve's DVD and the portions of it he has posted are, in my opinion, examples of the best kind of video training available. I have been with him in his shop while he was teaching me some of the things on his video. His DVD is like being with him in his shop. He has drawn on his years of experience, both as a teacher and as an active sharpener. He is not trying to advertise a product.
There are other very good videos online. Most, if not all, of us "old timers" have learned a lot from the shorter videos made by Jeff Farris years ago. Jeff's videos are still online, and I recommend them highly to you. They do not go into the depth that Steve does, but they are very good basic instruction.
Tormek has produced several videos with Alan Hotham. In my opinion, the best of these is the one on the DBS-22 drill bit jig. For those of us, like me, who use this jig infrequently, I watch Alan's video each time before using the jig. Alan's focus is marketing. This is not a bad thing, and he does it well. It is not the same thing as in depth training on how to overcome the pitfalls.
There are also several mediocre you tubes. Beware of any you tube showing how to open the box and a first use of the Tormek. These generally show lack of any Tormek experience, and are generally not worth watching.
In my opinion, Tormek does not want to promote any need for more advanced training. This is the way of business; I do not fault Tormek for this. Very few companies want potential customers to think that anything beyond opening the box is needed to have their products up and running. The Tormek is very well designed and manufactured. That does not mean there is not a learning curve to become proficient with it. Unfortunately, there is generally no good local training.
Stig is aware of our requests and is working on things. He is a very busy person. He has travelled more in a year than I have in my lifetime. He can only do what is mandated in the corporate budget.
I hope tormek will produce more training videos. There is certainly a need. If Tormek produce they have control of the content. If others produce them, Tormek will be included with other products.
Continue grumbling, Jimmy. We ar with you.
Ken
Thanks for explaining it for me Ken.
The guy called Jeff is the one i thought was Steven.. Soooo who is Steven lol?.. Any link to one where he is in?
Yeah i know i come off as a jackass but I'm just the kind of guy who say what is on his mind and move on. Not bearing a grudge or nothing. I believe in say what you mean and feel, and people will know what you mean and what you stand for. Granted some can't handle the truth, but so be it. Not everyone is my cup of the, Or the other way around, but i can live with that.
All i'm saying it. Forum is all good. talking about it all good. but videos (especial for noobs is gold) and there is SO MUCH experience in the forum, and i hope some will record and share with the rest of us. I know it is also a matter of knowing how to record, and i know for some it is like asking them to build a rocket. I hope you have the courage to do it , ask the neighbor's boy or whatever to help record it. Now a days all you need is a Phone and your golden. They record in full HD and better, without breaking a sweat. he he.
SO get to is guy's we will appreciate it more than you can imagine..
BTW. if i in any way can help, let me know i do have some knowledge in well computer etc.
The Steve being referred to is stevebot (Steve Bottorff).
http://sharpeningmadeeasy.com/
For his videos, go to youtube.com and search for Steve Bottroff or use the following links.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KrhZULmd18g
https://youtube.com/watch?v=xYrlJizVGbQ
https://youtube.com/watch?v=9AfoRxq5hlY
https://youtube.com/watch?v=rzWdpjyDZKM
https://youtube.com/watch?v=BKjMilG9LWY
https://youtube.com/watch?v=wTvHyH-VmtU
https://youtube.com/watch?v=XKdFyozNgMA
https://youtube.com/watch?v=1Gt_J9PXa-U
Thanks, Eldon.
This post should be bookmarked by serious sharpeners. I appreciate your research efforts.
Ken
Maybe these links could be added to your "Beginners" thread, Ken.
Thanks Elden/Eldon/kb0rvo
Or make a sticky with videos?
Quote from: kb0rvo on October 28, 2015, 02:50:36 AM
The Steve being referred to is stevebot (Steve Bottorff).
http://sharpeningmadeeasy.com/
For his videos, go to youtube.com and search for Steve Bottroff or use the following links.
https://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=KrhZULmd18g
https://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=xYrlJizVGbQ
https://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=9AfoRxq5hlY
https://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=rzWdpjyDZKM
https://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=BKjMilG9LWY
https://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=wTvHyH-VmtU
https://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=XKdFyozNgMA
https://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=1Gt_J9PXa-U
These links don't work on a computer, but do on a mobile phone I am guessing. (the m. part of the link)
I had to modify them to get them to work for a computer.
Thanks for the modification. These you tubes are a portion of Steve's excellent DVD, Sharpening School. Sharpening School is, in my opinion, the best in depth and clear training video for sharpening knives and scissors based (primarily) on the Tormek.
Ken
Thanks for the votes of confidence. My business partner (and wife) warns me that if I give away too much there won't be any incentive to buy the video. We knew girls like that in high school. But anyway I have posted 3 more segments that relate to Tormek. These are private and intended for this group only. Please do not share these links.
Tormek description https://youtu.be/OWe2HN0y3_U
Hybridyzing Equipment https://youtu.be/tCnjDEIuTpc
Knife Sharpening on the Tormek https://youtu.be/bWJsyHoFc5I
Please note that I am a contrarian and will not only use the Tormek in ways not recognized by the company but will also recommend other pieces of equipment for certain tasks when I feel they do a better or faster job.
Steve, thank you for posting additional video segments. :)
Unfortunately I cannot view any of the three links. Youtube tells me that it's a private file. Please be so kind and check the settings for file sharing.
Jan
Thanks Jan. Changed setting to Unlisted, see if that works.
Steve, thank you very much for your quick response!
Now all three links are fully functional. :)
Jan
Quote from: SharpenADullWitt on November 01, 2015, 07:39:51 AM
These links don't work on a computer, but do on a mobile phone I am guessing. (the m. part of the link)
I had to modify them to get them to work for a computer.
Randal, thanks for the heads up. You are correct, most of my posting is done from a Kindle Fire. Is the "m." all that needs to be removed to make them work? If so, I can easily modify them.
Thank you very very Much Steven. I really appriciate your effort to help us eventho it might affect your ability to sell, and make a living on it. THANKS!
Quote from: kb0rvo on November 03, 2015, 02:41:48 AM
Quote from: SharpenADullWitt on November 01, 2015, 07:39:51 AM
These links don't work on a computer, but do on a mobile phone I am guessing. (the m. part of the link)
I had to modify them to get them to work for a computer.
Randal, thanks for the heads up. You are correct, most of my posting is done from a Kindle Fire. Is the "m." all that needs to be removed to make them work? If so, I can easily modify them.
I've seen the m before on cell phones, and it doesn't seem to be universal, so knowing the device may make a difference (screen size?).
Your first link, I clicked on to open and it takes you just to the Youtube front page. Removing the middle section so it appeared like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrhZULmd18g
took me to the video.
The list of Steve's videos has been modified per Randal' s (SharpenADullWitt) suggestion. Hopefully this will make the links work on the computers. They will come up on this Kindle. If not, I will try to get them revised from the computer. Thanks Randal!