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I got the T8 last week and unboxed it this morning. I have mixed feelings...and water everywhere!

See this recent thread for more thoughts about the water "problem" 
https://forum.tormek.com/index.php?msg=39853
Danny

Bonjour à tous je viens d'acquérir une T4 neuve qui est arrivé avec la meule voilée et non plate sur le dessus le vendeur me dit que c'est tout à fait normal et qu'il faut toujours redresser avant la première utilisation est-ce que vous pourriez me confirmer ou non ces informations d'avance merci

Bonjour Xav62,
et bienvenue.
La plupart des gens sur ce forum parlent en anglais donc j'essaie de vous aider si possible. J'habite dans le sud de la France. J'ai une Tormek T8 (qui est livré avec l'outil redresse meule TT-50). Le redresse-meule et une option supplémentaire pour la T4. Si vous voulez la meilleure précision avec votre machine, je vous conseille d'en acheter aussi. Pour moi, c'est essentiel pour maintenir la meule en parfait état.
Pour info ça se trouve en vente chez Marcin pour 87,75 euros.
https://coutelleriemarcin.com/fr/tormek/843-tormek-tt-50-redresse-meule-1379540012248.html

Je n'ai pas experience avec les pierres T4 neuves donc difficile à dire si tout est normal.  Si vous estimez que l'état de la meule actuel que vous avez reçu est défectueuse ou bien inutilisable, vous pouvez contacter Tormek service client pour vous aider ou pour vous conseiller.
info@tormek.se
Il y a des gens à l'écoute qui parlent bien le français.
Est-ce possible de nous montrer un lien d'un video pour la voir en marche?
Cordialement,
Danny

For the English speakers here..
Hello Xav62,
and welcome.
Most people on this forum speak in English so will to try to help you if possible. I live in the south of France. I have a Tormek T8 (which comes with the TT-50 Truing tool). This is an additional option for the T4. If you want the best precision with your machine, I would suggest you to buy one too. For me, this is essential to keep the wheel in perfect condition.
For your information, it is on sale at Marcin for 87.75 euros.
https://coutelleriemarcin.com/fr/tormek/843-tormek-tt-50-redresse-meule-1379540012248.html

I don't have experience with new T4 stones so it's difficult to say if everything is normal. If you believe that the current condition of the grinding wheel you received is defective or unusable, you can contact Tormek customer service for assistance or advice.
info@tormek.se
There are people there who speak French well.
Is it possible to show us a link to a video to see it in action?
Sincerely,
Danny

Sometimes it is very difficult to have the knife blade align with the spine of the SVM-00 Small knife holder....
...I have designed and built a easy to use jig which aligns the blade/handle very quickly.

Personally, I don't have the jig but I am very curious to know more and understand your idea/adaptation. I  may be tempted to get one if it is useful.
Can you give us a photo / description of your idea, please?

Danny

I would love to come across a used Tormek T4000...

Not sure where you are in the world but I noticed one for sale in France at the moment.
https://www.leboncoin.fr/equipements_pour_restaurants_hotels/2490215248.htm

equipped with a new coarse diamond wheel and two SVM knife jigs. They are asking 800 euros for it.
It is on the other side of France from me. I have no connection, BTW. I just saw it a few days ago and your post reminded me.

Danny

Granted that cafeteria trays and dog food trays will work well. However, while researching the choice of a tray, we should not overlook the option of the Tormek Rubber Work Mat. Yes, it is expensive...

Ken, when I saw how expensive (80 euros!) I definitely overlooked it and went for my plastic tray (6 euros)

Danny

One irritation I experienced was flooding. When I was sharpening the hand plane blades, I set the SE-77 stops up to allow the plane blade to overhang the inside edge such that 1/4" of blade material was still on the grinding wheel. This allowed water to drip onto the top of the machine, but it doesn't seem to be returning to the water tray. Rather, it was falling onto my workbench and running onto the floor. I tried propping the opposite side up 1/4", but this made no difference. The water tray was in the fully seated position. Is this normal? What have others done to avoid this?

Initially, I was skeptical that the rotating base was really necessary. After lifting the machine around to sharpen 8 chisels and a plane blade, I am no longer skeptical. In fact, I went so far as to make my own rotating base just to get through the sharpening session and then ordered the base this evening.

For the water problem, a simple (and cheap!) solution I found was a plastic gardening tray underneath the Tormek. This cost me 6 euros and is extremely effective at keeping any water spillage off the support/bench.
photo here


Tormek do propose a rubber mat for this purpose, of course.
https://tormek.com/en/products/accessories/rm-533-rubber-work-mat

Danny
P.S. I just put my machine stand on wheels and pull it out in use. This means going round the other side to hone, of course but is an alternative to a rotating base 
I did think having the Tormek sitting on a pull out drawer mechanism would be a great idea with drawers underneath for Tormek stuff but in the end this was simplest for me.

Yes Dutchman, more or less exact
Just a little correction or two:
Hello Niquedouille,
Prices are good at Marcin, delivery to France included.
Here for example, the T8 model for less than 700 euros
https://coutelleriemarcin.com/fr/tormek/1428-tormek-t-8-t8-meule-d-affutage-a-eau-220v-manuel-carnet-en-francais--1379540009286.html
I don't have any relations with them but it seems that they are a reliable company.
Personally, I bought my T8 (which was a special offer) on Dieter Schmidt's website in Germany.
I am very happy with my purchase.
I use the standard SG-250 stone with very good results on my chisels, planer blades and kitchen knives. I find it quite quick for chisels.
If I want to repair damaged parts, it's done quickly, carefully (with frequent dipping in a little water to avoid overheating it) on a small, inexpensive bench grinder then I use the Tormek for a good finish .
It's true that the Tormek is not the tool for removing material quickly.
I can't comment on long planer blades but if it's a very hard steel, a diamond wheel may be more useful...to be added later??
Sincerely,
Danny
  

Bonjour Niquedouille,
il y a des bons prix chez Marcin, livraison en France compris.
ici par exemple, le modèle T8 à moins de 700 euros
https://coutelleriemarcin.com/fr/tormek/1428-tormek-t-8-t8-meule-d-affutage-a-eau-220v-manuel-carnet-en-francais--1379540009286.html
Je n'ai pas des liens avec eu mais il semble qu'ils sont une boite fiable.
Perso, j'ai acheté mon T8 (qui était en promo) sur le site de Dieter Schmidt en Allemagne.
Je suis largement très content de mon achat.
J'utilise la pierre standard SG-250 avec les très bons résultats sur mes ciseaux, lames de rabots et couteaux de cuisine. Je le trouve assez rapide pour les ciseaux.
Si je veux redresser les parties endommagées, c'est vite fait, doucement (avec un trompe fréquent dans un peu d'eau pour éviter de le surchauffer) sur un petit touret à mouler pas cher puis je passe à la Tormek pour une bonne finition.

C'est vrai que la Tormek n'est pas l'outil pour enlever la matière rapidement.

Je ne peux pas faire commentaire sur les lames longues de raboteuse mais s'il s'agit d'un acier très dur, un meule diamante peut être plus utile...à ajouter plus tard??

Cordialement,

Danny

Just for info for anyone interested...
I have found the MB-102 available soon online here in Europe for 89 euros. Very good price for a FVB and extra functionality for those who may need it.
Danny

Aquateur,
Well done. It makes such a difference for knife sharpening, I never use the Tormek honing side for knives now. It is so convenient, quick and accurate to just set the distance to the grinding wheel and the honing wheel using Calcapp.

I did consider making a wheel too but really the price for a quality ready made wheel from Shleifjunkies was excellent (as was the service too) compared to doing it all myself. I did, of course, have to fashion a suitable support for the USB and that was enough work already.

Danny

Kess,
Be aware that the stone will stay wet for some time (as Ken says) so you need to make sure that the temperature in your shed will remain above freezing!! Not sure if it is heated or not but the tone may crack if the temperature gets too low.
Danny

Well, that was easy...

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Well done! A great simple idea that works well and pretty cheap too. One of those 'Why didn't anyone think ot this previously' ideas   
Danny

Well, in that case the Shleifjunkies FVB is a good option.

Unless.... you also have a diamond wheel in which case the new Tormek MB-102 may be more useful and possibly cheaper.

Danny

If you are catching on the the second stop on the jig (number 1) then you can only buy (or make) a FVB or remove the second stop on the KJ-45 jig but this is probably not a good idea. You may want to to use it one day!
Yes the FVB from schleifjunkies looks good. I bought another item from them and the service was very good.
Out if interest, here is a photo of my homemade FVB

on the machine

with support inserted

use with knife


There is something nice about making your own but to be honest I didn't really save money doing mine, I just enjoy making things.

There is also a swedish made version available but I can't find the link at the moment.
If I were to buy one now then the new Tormek MB-102 may well be cheaper. I have just seen one online for preorder in the UK for £90.https://www.yandles.co.uk/tormek-mb-102-multi-base/p30279

I imagine it will be for sale about 80 euros from Marcin in Belgium sometime soon.

Danny

Which is the part of the jig that is catching in the support bar? 1 or 2?



this has been a problem described here quite a few times previously. The solution that most people choose to get round this is to use a Front Vertical Base (FVB) or if it is the locking screw (number 2 in the photo) causing the problem you can chnage this for a small grub screw with Allen head  - M6 I believe.
The FVB is available from a few places. Here for example
FVB from Germany others are available.

The new Tormek jig MB-102 should also help as it can be used as a simple FVB.
See this recent thread
New MB-102 jig
I have yet to see this new jig for sale in the EU but it should be available soon.
Marcin in Belgium has very good prices

Danny