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Started by That Sharpening Guy, July 12, 2014, 04:40:35 PM

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Jan

#30
Welcome to the forum Magnus and thanks for sharing experience with your Global knife.  :)

In my understanding your longer bladed G-14 knife has a chisel version of the flat zero bevel grind. The bevel angle may be some 12.5o, as used in Japanese cutlery.

Using Tormek knife jig you create hollow grind, which means you slightly reshape the blade. It may be challenging to reshape your 12" long blade, esp. to keep the same bevel width along the whole blade.

Jan


Ken S

With apologies to President Teddy Roosevelt, "Bully for you, Stig!"

Thanks for posting, Magnus.

Ken

SharpenADullWitt

What is the T-2?
Do you work for Tormek by chance?
Favorite line, from a post here:
Quote from: Rob on February 24, 2013, 06:11:44 PM
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Yeah you know Tormek have reached sharpening nirvana when you get a prosthetic hand as part of the standard package :/)

Ken S

Magnus,

I am unfamiliar with Sundqvist (AB?). I am guessing it is a knife making company.? Would you please give us some background information.

Thanks.

Ken

Magnus Sundqvist

Hi,
Yeah, some more background information, of course :)

I've been referred to earlier in this forum by Stig as "The Global dealer in Sweden".
Our family business is wholesale dealer of high end equipment for the kitchen.
We handle 14 brands and serve B2B, and retail in Sweden. My grandfather started the business back in the 40's and has been a old school dealer who mostly handled hunting knives and scissors he had a one man show going way into the 90's. Today the company employees 28 people and is run by my brother, my father is the head chairman, and my position is Product Manager.

Some years ago Stig came to us to hear what we thought about Tormek machines and quickly we found them to be really well built and easy to work with.
So by now i have a T-7, a T-3 and a T-2, all the stones, almost all the jigs and a sharpening station. I've sharpened knives in almost every shape and in every state of abuse and i really like the machines. Knives with SG-2, SG-5, VG-10, Molybden/Vanadium, Cromova 18, 18/8, 18/10 have all visited my stones and it's been great fun.

I've had some training by Mino Tsushida in wet stone sharpening and have sharpened quite a lot of knives by hand. Demonstrations in shops and for vip-costumers are also quite common and some times full on lectures where I teach knife manufacturing, handling, storage and sharpening up to 200 people at a time. Some times I bring a Tormek and take sharpening orders in the shops of our costumers. All to raise awareness of maintaining your tools in the kitchen.

So, I'll happily answer all I can and also do some more experiments if you want me to try something out.
Ask Stig about the T-2.

I've done some reading in the forum and you guys are really good att resharpening stuff, I thing we'll make good friends  :)

Best regards
Magnus
Product Manager at www.sundqvist.se

Jan

#35
Thanks for your interesting information, Magnus!  :)

As far as I know, Tormek T2 is kitchen knife sharpener designed for gastronomy. It is equipped with Tormek fine diamond wheel, 200 mm diameter. The wheel is not cooled by water. T2 is derived from T4, but does not use the US concept. It has a special knife jig - spring clamp, which enables to sharpen bevel angels in the range from 8° to 22°. Maximum knife blade thickness is 3.5 mm. The honing wheel is conical, made of some composite material.

Jan

Elden

#36
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rIQBB9J_GM0

For those of us who understand English only, at least you can see a picture of it.
Elden

Ken S

Elden,

The very little I know about the T2 gives me the impression that it is a highly specialized sharpening system designed for restaurant use, as opposed to the multipurpose regular Tormek models. Presumably, in a restaurant, a limited range of cooking knives would receive very regular tune up sharpening. I would expect these knives to be dull from professional (trained) use as opposed to abused. No good chef would abuse his expensive knives. I would expect the same care expectations from a restaurant owner for his fine cutlery.

It appears to have the same motor as the T4 (wired for European power in this case). I was pleased to see that, as I have always felt the T4 motor is a trooper. It is used dry with a magnet to catch off grindings. It has a limited angle range, suited for kitchen cutlery. It will not handle wide hunting knives. It is a specialist's tool.

The regular Tormeks (Supergrind, T4 and T7) must be able to handle a much more diverse work environment. One day may bring chisels which have chipped edges as well as being very dull or abused. (Chisels unafraid of nails!) Plane blades with nicks. Knives which are well past dull and may have broken tips or substantial nicks. Turning, carving, scissors, drill bits; this Tormek must be a "Tormek for All Seasons". It must also be priced for a wider market.

I gather that at this point the T2 is only available on a very limited bases in Sweden. i hope it proves successful enough to be expanded to a world market.

Ken

Jan

Ken, Elden, on Tormek web page http://tormek-prokitchen.com/ you can find PDF leaflet for T2 written in Swedish. The page informs, that T2 is sold in Sweden through Martin & Servera, the leading wholesaler for the catering industry in Sweden.

Jan

Ken S

Good researching, Jan.

If you copy paste the pdf into google translate, you can get a fairly good translation of the document in many languages, including Czech.

Ken

Elden

Thanks Jan  and Ken.. The tapered honing wheel is interesting.
Elden

Ken S

Elden,

The tapered honing is an interesting feature. I think it could be very useful for cutlery and a nuisance for almost everything else!

Ken

Jan

The new T2 is cool.  :)  For me it has three interesting features: the fine diamond wheel, the tapered honing wheel and the new knife jig – spring clamp.

The tapered honing wheel should enable honing long knives without grindstone removal. It probably works without honing compound.

Jan

Magnus Sundqvist

I put the diamond wheel from the T-2 on a T-4 to try it out with some jigs and man that thing can eat steel!
The knife had a quite nasty damage of 2,2 x 4 (mm) so quite a lot of steel needed to be grinded of.
It took just minutes...
The knife was a Shun chef 8'.
Product Manager at www.sundqvist.se

Jan

Thanks for your post Magnus. It is god to know, that the diamond wheel is good for reshaping knifes.  :)  Hopefully, it will not wear out too quickly.

Jan